Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:44:21 -0500 From: Brooks Davis <brooks@FreeBSD.org> To: Gabor Kovesdan <gabor@FreeBSD.org>, doc@FreeBSD.org, World Wide Web Owner <www@FreeBSD.org>, webmaster@FreeBSD.org, doceng@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: putting our graphs onto the website Message-ID: <20070423174421.GE40814@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> In-Reply-To: <20070422103926.GA976@gothic.blackend.org> References: <462A77FD.1060504@FreeBSD.org> <20070422103926.GA976@gothic.blackend.org>
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--ryJZkp9/svQ58syV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 12:39:26PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 10:45:49PM +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > > Hello, > >=20 > > as you probably know, we started to maintain some nice graphs about the= =20 > > mentor-mentee relationships between the project and I added one more=20 > > about the specific teams recently. If you haven't noticed these graphs,= =20 > > go and check them in src/share/misc. > >=20 > > As we have this nice stuff now, I think it would be nice to make them= =20 > > available for the public. I could have just put it into=20 > > people.freebsd.org to my place, but I think the official website is=20 > > better for this, since it is rebuilt regularly and get more attention. > >=20 > > I have a patch for building the graphs in www/en/gifs/Makefile, but it= =20 > > would need graphics/graphviz to be installed on www.FreeBSD.org=20 > > (webmaster CC'd) and be added to textproc/docproj (doceng CC'd). > > The patch is here: http://gabor.t-hosting.hu/patches/graphs.diff > > And the rendered version is here:=20 > > http://gabor.t-hosting.hu/data/organization.html > > >=20 > I'm not really happy with the fact we should add another dependency to > the textproc/docproj port. graphics/graphviz has a lot of heavy > dependencies. I'm not sure mirrors would be happy with these > requirements, don't forget that changing something to the build of the > www/ or doc/ sets has consequence outside of the FreeBSD.org network. > On another hand, there are already some equivalent systems to graphviz > in the current docproj port (I mean some "txt to graph" systems: > pstricks, groff, etc.), so why not using what is already available > instead of adding a new application? Given that docproj includes TeX it's dependency list, complaining about the weight of graphviz seems silly. There might be some value in creating a graphviz-lite slave port to remove the XPM and TK support, but otherwise it isn't all that bad. Generating these graphs by hand would require a huge amount of work everything anything changed. Unless you plan to do it, suggesting it pointless. > Regarding the graphs, I can understand the importance of the project > organization graph, but for the mentor-mentee one I doubt a lot of > people will really care of it. > The organization graph can be static, we don't need to say who compose > the teams since it's already detailed elsewhere. At least at this point this argument may have more merit. The mentor-mentee graphs are cools, but nearly impossible to read (since I don't have a 16k pixel wide monitor :). -- Brooks --ryJZkp9/svQ58syV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGLPB1XY6L6fI4GtQRAp+1AKCNaz/w0ouG5RdsVzjSQwm9fXGhLQCgxPoR Pc/i5ARcFWmweo0ualaolXw= =2I7F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ryJZkp9/svQ58syV--
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