Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:23:30 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn <girgen@pingpong.net> To: Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net> Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to remote update 4.10 -> 5.3? Message-ID: <44633F1A12BF90A756A3AB0F@palle.girgensohn.se> In-Reply-To: <20041229210110.GA16903@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <05F0F09DEB66858D9B452FB8@palle.girgensohn.se> <20041229203601.GD10293@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <FA148342E1CB891D674B768C@palle.girgensohn.se> <20041229210110.GA16903@odin.ac.hmc.edu>
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--On onsdag, december 29, 2004 13.01.10 -0800 Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 09:49:10PM +0100, Palle Girgensohn wrote: >> >> >> --On onsdag, december 29, 2004 12.36.01 -0800 Brooks Davis >> <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net> wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 09:30:37PM +0100, Palle Girgensohn wrote: >> >> Has anyone managed to update a 4.10 system to 5.3 remotely, i.e. >> >> without console access, and without spare disk partitions? >> >> >> >> I have a bunch of 4.10 machines that are too far away for me to >> >> actually do the update hands on. I've tried it on a test machine, it >> >> fails half way through installworld, and really needs single user >> >> mode to succeed. The install procedure fails since it starts using >> >> the newly installed stuff, things like sh(1) and test(1), and they >> >> cannot find their libc.so.5, I guess... >> >> >> >> One idea I have is copying / and /usr to some other place and set >> >> ldconfig and PATH=some/other/place and when building and installing. >> >> Haven't tried it yet, thought I'd hear anyone on this list has a >> >> better suggestion? >> >> >> >> Optimally, there would a couple of gigs on a separate spare disk >> >> partition so I could just install everything there and use it upon >> >> reboot. Problem is, there is no such space. :( >> > >> > In general, my suggestion would be, don't do that. Do you really need >> > to upgrade? Remember, 4.11 is likely to be supported for security >> > upgrades into early 2006 so if your machines are working and you don't >> > really need the new functionality, I'd suggest avoiding an upgrade. >> >> Well, I need wide char support, as in iswlower and the likes. Maybe I >> could use some portability lib or similar...? Ideas? >> >> BTW, do you mean that 5.3 is not stable enough, or just that it is a >> nuisance to upgrade? While I agree that 4.10 is very stable, a lot of >> things have improved with 5.x... > > If you need the improved wide char support, then you will probably have > to upgrade. 5.3 is generally stable, but I personally think upgrading > for 4.x by any method other then a new install is a bad idea. It's > certaintly possiable, but not trivial. I believe the instructions in > UPDATING should work, but I've never tried them remotely. I've tried the UPDATING instructions, both locally and remotely (the latter failed ;-). But really, everything has to be reinstalled, ports and the lot, so a new install is probably the best way... Thanks for you input anyway! /Palle
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