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Date:      Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:12:01 +0000 (UTC)
From:      Vadim Goncharov <vadim_nuclight@mail.ru>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Trying to install current from a memory stick and then a DVD and got a new and strange installer.
Message-ID:  <slrnj2ru20.2a6m.vadim_nuclight@kernblitz.nuclight.avtf.net>
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Hi Freddie Cash! 

On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:01:44 -0700; Freddie Cash wrote about 'Re: Trying to install current from a memory stick and then a DVD and got a new and strange installer.':

>> 3) I see no "post-install" uses on the new one.  Sysinstall could be used
> on an up-and-running system to do everything from adding a user to changing
> a nameserver and more.

> Thank goodness. The worst thing about sysinstall was that it tried to be a
> Swiss Army knife doing everything, yet not doing any one thing well. It made
> a royal mess of rc.conf if you tried to use it to configure a system.
> Usually the first time someone mentions they use it for post-install
> configuration, the recommendation is to stop doing that!

> An os installer should do just that: install the os and nothing else.

No. That's wrong. An installer should make a usable system. While using
sysinstall for configuration multiple times made a mess, it is still needed
to make configuration the _first time_ - and it really did, without any mess.
You've got a working keyboard, TTY, network, users/passwords, etc. - before
reboot. This is something which must be intuitive for a new user, even if
it is used only one time in the system's life (at the installation). Cutting
it - is a regression.

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