Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:34:41 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl> To: Josh Paetzel <josh@tcbug.org>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>, Bill Swingle <unfurl@dub.net> Subject: Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives Message-ID: <20070724183441.GA37120@freebie.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20070724182604.GA3759@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <46A54B6F.9010100@dub.net> <20070724044208.GA79101@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <200707241518.35730.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200707241230.53119.josh@tcbug.org> <20070724182604.GA3759@eos.sc1.parodius.com>
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On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 11:26:04AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote.. > On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:30:49PM -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > I don't have any experience with the Hitachi 1TB SATA drives, but I > > know an outfit that was trying out the Seagate 1TB drives and had 8 > > out of 12 fail their burn-in (a 3 day torture test) My luck with > > consumer SATA drives has been incredibly dismal, with ~40 of them in > > service I see multiple failures a year, including drives being DOA > > and dying after a few weeks of service. I wouldn't be at all > > surprised if one or both of the drives was bad right out of the box. > makes backing up 300GB+ of data easy. Everything that's capable of > doing this is in the tens of thousands of US dollars, if not more. Am I > going to sit around once a week backing up a terabyte of data to ~120 > dual-layer 8.5GB DVDs? Nope. The closest thing out there right now is Which are only available in write-once in dual-layer so you would soon have a landfill worth of DVDs. > A new IOMega REV (which includes one 70GB disk) costs US$600 MSRP. You > read that right. Pff. Find a pre-owned SuperDLT or LTO drive? Not the cheapest I guess, but dual-layer DVDs are not a solution IMHO. Or get a Blu-ray disk? Also still $$ I'm using an LTO2 drive myself. > * SCSI is outrageously expensive even in 2007. I have yet to see any > shred of justification for why SCSI costs so much *even today*. It > costs only a smidgen less than it did 15 years ago. > > * SCSI is on its way out. Seagate recently announced that > they'll no longer be supporting SCSI products, possibly by the end of > next year: > > "Seagate has announced that by next year they will no longer be > supporting SCSI product and will be moving customers to the SATA > interface." > http://www.horizontechnology.com/news/market/market_perspective_storage_04-11-2007.php I imagine this is meant to read as: parallel SCSI, as opposed to SAS. SAS is very much alive. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org
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