Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:47:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug <Doug@gorean.org> To: Rod Taylor <dark@idiotswitch.org> Cc: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, I just couldn't let this go by... Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9909011646130.35113-100000@dt010nb9.san.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <99090119093901.11076@a11.idiotswitch.org>
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One more polite request. Please, DO NOT discuss advocacy on -chat.
If you want to discuss advocacy issues please subscribe to the
freebsd-advocacy list and have at it. There are many of us on -chat that
do not want our mailboxes filled with this stuff.
Thanks,
Doug
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Rod Taylor wrote:
> I'm mildly interested in what you consider these to be. Can we fix these
> problems? Are they problems, or choices with long term payoffs rather than
> immediate. Does FreeBSD want a larger userbase, afterall... With the good,
> comes the bad.
>
> Rather than defending your yet to be shared thoughts. Please discuss, with me
> if noone else, just what we can do. And, I suggest you ignore the overly
> negative feedback, and consider only the constructive feedback. Perhaps one of
> the user groups could use your thoughts to help spread it throughout their area
> as a test base. If it accomplishes what is wanted, then the project is
> expanded. If not, it's confined to that area or stopped should the results be
> negative. I make the assumption your plan is feasible.
>
> On Wed, 01 Sep 1999, Brett Glass wrote:
>
> > Advocacy is more than just being a "booster" or shouting "Rah! Rah!" on the
> > sidelines. It also involves identifying problems and solving them. It seems
> > as if some of the members of this list would rather shoot the messenger than
> > deal with FreeBSD's problems in the area of marketing and evangelism. Recognition
> > of the problem -- which even according to David's numbers is growing
> > exponentially -- is necessary before right action can be taken.
>
> --
> Justice is incidental to law and order. -J. Edgar Hoover
> (contributed by Chris Johnston)
> --
>
> Rod Taylor
>
>
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