Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:06:50 -0700 From: "Tomlinson, Drew" <Drew.Tomlinson@lc.ca.gov> To: "'kstewart@urx.com'" <kstewart@urx.com> Cc: 'Mark Ovens' <marko@freebsd.org>, "'FreeBSD Questions (E-mail)'" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Part #1 - Newbie Help Determining Lost Root After Upgrade Fro m 4.0 to 4.1 Message-ID: <8C224DC088D8D111B67D0000F67AC17E029C4C78@ldcmsx01.lc.ca.gov>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] > > "Tomlinson, Drew" wrote: > > > > Thank you both for your help. I am compiling a new kernel right > > now. > > > > I'm actually in California but I use a dynamic IP (dynip.com) DNS > > service that is located in Canada. So would this be why I had an > > error using CVSup with the "cvs-crypto" tag? I don't remember the > > exact error but it was something along the lines of it not being > > available. When I commented out the "cvs-crypto" and uncommented > > the individual collections, I didn't get the unavailable error. > > That message was caused by the fact they folded crypto in to src-all. > The cryto stuff should all be commented out or moved in front of the > ports-all tag=. section. I think commented out is the best choice > because it is already in src-all. I don't include the ports with my > system cvsup. I update the ports and docs manually because they are > based on tag=. and I don't mixed different worlds :). The fact that > you have your crypto stuff after the ports-all tag=. concerns me. I > have doubts on this but no notion what it did for you or to you. I > just don't do it that way because of my way of handling building my > world. > I just edited the supfile that was installed with the port. That's the order it was in. How do you update the ports and docs manually? Do you have a different supfile with just the ports and docs? Or is there some other command. > > > > So what problems am I likely to encounter once I get a good kernel? > > Also, you are correct, mergemaster didn't actually update anything > > as the default is to leave it for later. I've read the man page but > > don't understand why/when I want to keep, replace, or merge. I am > > completely new to Unix and am having a difficult time grasping > > concepts. > > I am very carefull to always use a KERNEL=SOMETHING on my buildkernel. > The previous commands stick around in roots history file. I rarely > modify my kernel config file and so I always do the > build[install]kernel method in /usr/src/UPDATING. I find I can get > away without doing the intermediate singe user mode boot but you > shouldn't try it right now. Thanks. I did use KERNEL=SOMETHING (machine name) as suggested by the handbook. But I'm curious. Why do you rarely modify your kernel config file? I thought that one of the main advantages to Unix was in creating a custom kernel specific to each machine, thus streamlining the OS and speeding things up significantly. Is this a misperception? > With mergemaster I follow the rule that anything I haven't modified I > use the new file (the "i" option). That is what the system is > expecting to use. You will have to update what seems like 100 files. > It will try to change your host* files. I look at those and do it > manually (the <cr> option). I have modified my dot.* files and I don't > let it change them back. It will try to change /root/.* files and I > don't let it do that either. My root aliases kept disappearing until > the light went on. > > Sendmail is going to thrash around until you build a new aliases.db > using the "newaliases" command. That is discussed in the first screen > of text on /usr/src/UPDATING. When my compile finally finishes, I'll try these steps. With the exception of the console, I'm locked out. I can't telnet in as I have no IP connection. Any attempt to ping from my machine returns a "no route to host" message even on the same subnet. I hope this is just because my system is between verisons right now? If not then I'll tackle that one next. [snip] Thanks again! Drew [-- Attachment #2 --] <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2650.12"> <TITLE>RE: Part #1 - Newbie Help Determining Lost Root After Upgrade Fro m 4.0 to 4.1</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=2>> > "Tomlinson, Drew" wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Thank you both for your help. I am compiling a new kernel right</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > now.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > I'm actually in California but I use a dynamic IP (dynip.com) DNS</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > service that is located in Canada. So would this be why I had an</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > error using CVSup with the "cvs-crypto" tag? I don't remember the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > exact error but it was something along the lines of it not being</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > available. When I commented out the "cvs-crypto" and uncommented</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > the individual collections, I didn't get the unavailable error.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> That message was caused by the fact they folded crypto in to src-all.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> The cryto stuff should all be commented out or moved in front of the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ports-all tag=. section. I think commented out is the best choice</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> because it is already in src-all. I don't include the ports with my</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> system cvsup. I update the ports and docs manually because they are</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> based on tag=. and I don't mixed different worlds :). The fact that</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> you have your crypto stuff after the ports-all tag=. concerns me. I</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> have doubts on this but no notion what it did for you or to you. I</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> just don't do it that way because of my way of handling building my</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> world.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>I just edited the supfile that was installed with the port. That's the order it was in. How do you update the ports and docs manually? Do you have a different supfile with just the ports and docs? Or is there some other command.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > So what problems am I likely to encounter once I get a good kernel?</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Also, you are correct, mergemaster didn't actually update anything</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > as the default is to leave it for later. I've read the man page but</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > don't understand why/when I want to keep, replace, or merge. I am</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > completely new to Unix and am having a difficult time grasping</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > concepts.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I am very carefull to always use a KERNEL=SOMETHING on my buildkernel.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> The previous commands stick around in roots history file. I rarely</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> modify my kernel config file and so I always do the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> build[install]kernel method in /usr/src/UPDATING. I find I can get</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> away without doing the intermediate singe user mode boot but you</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> shouldn't try it right now.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Thanks. I did use KERNEL=SOMETHING (machine name) as suggested by the handbook. But I'm curious. Why do you rarely modify your kernel config file? I thought that one of the main advantages to Unix was in creating a custom kernel specific to each machine, thus streamlining the OS and speeding things up significantly. Is this a misperception?</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>> With mergemaster I follow the rule that anything I haven't modified I</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> use the new file (the "i" option). That is what the system is</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> expecting to use. You will have to update what seems like 100 files.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> It will try to change your host* files. I look at those and do it</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> manually (the <cr> option). I have modified my dot.* files and I don't</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> let it change them back. It will try to change /root/.* files and I</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> don't let it do that either. My root aliases kept disappearing until</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> the light went on.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sendmail is going to thrash around until you build a new aliases.db</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> using the "newaliases" command. That is discussed in the first screen</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> of text on /usr/src/UPDATING.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>When my compile finally finishes, I'll try these steps. With the exception of the console, I'm locked out. I can't telnet in as I have no IP connection. Any attempt to ping from my machine returns a "no route to host" message even on the same subnet. I hope this is just because my system is between verisons right now? If not then I'll tackle that one next.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>[snip]</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Thanks again!</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Drew</FONT> </P> </BODY> </HTML>help
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