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Date:      Sun, 24 Feb 2002 00:12:24 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
To:        mascio@ryu.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: User unknown: Lie to Spammers?
Message-ID:  <p0510122db89dd1e8c4f1@[10.0.1.2]>
In-Reply-To: <3C77EF30.2030001@ryu.com>
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At 1:36 PM -0600 2002/02/23, John R. S. Mascio wrote:

>  So true.  A friend of mine uses Ricochet (http://www.vipul.net/ricochet/)
>  to try to attack the problem.  You save the email, including headers and
>  it will send email to the admins of the chain of receiving machines that
>  the email followed.  The goal is to attempt to get spamers punted by the
>  ISPs often enough that it is some pain for them as well.  He's had some
>  luck with it.  YMMV.

	IMO, this won't work.  Spammers use throw-away dial-up accounts 
to generate their effluent for a few hours, and then they toss it 
away and go on to the next free account.

	The only thing that would work is to attack the providers that 
host their websites, but by now they sign up with spam-friendly ISPs 
who ignore any complaints, or they set up their own spam-friendly 
ISP, and there's not a damn thing you can do.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

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