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Date:      Fri, 15 May 1998 11:46:08 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= <dag-erli@ifi.uio.no>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The dumbing-down of programming
Message-ID:  <19980515114608.H305@freebie.lemis.com>
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On Thu, 14 May 1998 at 13:14:32 +0200, Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav  wrote:
> This was pointed out to me by a fellow student:
>
> ".. Most of the programming team consisted of programmers who had
> great facility with Windows, Microsoft Visual C++ and the Foundation
> Classes. In no time at all, it seemed, they had generated many
> screenfuls of windows and toolbars and dialogs, all with connections
> to networks and data sources, thousands and thousands of lines of
> code. But when the inevitable difficulties of debugging came, they
> seemed at sea. In the face of the usual weird and unexplainable
> outcomes, they stood a bit agog. It was lef to the UNIX-trained
> programmers to fix things. The UNIX team members were accustomed to
> having to know. .."
>
> http://www.salon1999.com/21st/feature/

Are you sure you have the correct URL?  I can't find anything like
that there.

Greg
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