Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 14:45:14 +0100 From: Mark Blackman <mark@exonetric.com> To: Avleen Vig <avleen@gmail.com> Cc: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>, Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no> Subject: Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?) Message-ID: <D49E4B08-AC64-48C0-B918-94A7E30AB981@exonetric.com> In-Reply-To: <CAMjP1K=b8mwqe31m=OqjUV%2BF=B85L4vpfT%2BDj00a1voPB-8TwA@mail.gmail.com> References: <CA%2BQLa9B-Dm-=hQCrbEgyfO4sKZ5aG72_PEFF9nLhyoy4GRCGrA@mail.gmail.com> <4FF2E00E.2030502@FreeBSD.org> <86bojxow6x.fsf@ds4.des.no> <89AB703D-E075-4AAC-AC1B-B358CC4E4E7F@lists.zabbadoz.net> <4FF8C3A1.9080805@FreeBSD.org> <20472.51031.308284.775990@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4FF8C890.9030408@FreeBSD.org> <CAMjP1KmVDJuKw09UFXb2M6QaL1dD1ocSjMOZLtjKiYFYoF9f4Q@mail.gmail.com> <4FFA7174.7050604@FreeBSD.org> <CAMjP1K=MahXEgHM-gKHFfDpQRDXY_0LGTn0JEE0Zm43%2Bh5jfPA@mail.gmail.com> <4FFA7980.4000707@FreeBSD.org> <CAMjP1K=b8mwqe31m=OqjUV%2BF=B85L4vpfT%2BDj00a1voPB-8TwA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 9 Jul 2012, at 08:34, Avleen Vig wrote: > > Agreed. The idea of a "minimally functional system" itself might be > flawed. Do you consider having `dig` and `host` essential in a > minimally functioning system? I do. > It's pretty f'king hard to resolve problems with installing the > bind-utils port, if you don't know how to test your DNS :-) > > The issue is also one of barrier-to-entry. By removing `dig` and > `host`, I think we're making things unnecessarily more difficult for > people who don't *know* FreeBSD. `dig` and `host` a universally > standard tools for doing DNS lookups. Taking them away in base to > replace them with something else just seems like something that won't > really *help* users. Indeed, 'dig' and 'host' must be present and working as expected in a minimally installed system. - Mark
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