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Date:      Sun, 19 Nov 2000 00:08:23 -0700
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: GPL rant number 31391 (was: Jordan Hubbard on Darwin)
Message-ID:  <4.3.2.7.2.20001119000021.045baab0@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <20001119165527.L52433@echunga.lemis.com>
References:  <4.3.2.7.2.20001118222633.046bb550@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20001118184345.045f1d90@localhost> <20001119111646.C5877@echunga.lemis.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20001118142924.00cb6850@localhost> <20001119111646.C5877@echunga.lemis.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20001118184345.045f1d90@localhost> <v04220816b63ce4583662@[195.238.1.121]> <4.3.2.7.2.20001118222633.046bb550@localhost>

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At 11:25 PM 11/18/2000, Greg Lehey wrote:

>Grrr.  If you can rant about GPL, let me at least vent my spleen that
>you have mangled Brad's message by removing the line breaks.  What
>junk did that?
>
>> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2

Looks like you've answered your own question. Yes, I happen to be
working on a Windows client attached to my FreeBSD server. Sorry
if things wrapped oddly; I try to remember to force Eudora not to
wrap messages.

>You complain about the GPL, but you're happy with Microsoft?  That I
>really don't understand.

Frankly, I'd like to eliminate software from both the GPL *and* 
Microsoft from my infrastructure, because both organizations
engage in unethical, predatory, and destructive practices. But
for now, there's even GPLed stuff in FreeBSD (sigh).... 

>> Seriously: Linux was only started in the early 90's, and GCC in the
>> 80's. There's no need to exceed one's lifespan to produce BETTER
>> code, so long as there's a concerted effort to make FreeBSD free.
>
>Well, I thought we had that effort, and that it had succeeded.  I
>suppose it all depends on who makes the rules.

FreeBSD is not free so long as it depends upon non-free software.
GPLed software is not free, despite Stallman's rhetoric. A truly
free software license places NO restrictions on what you can do
with the code -- only upon what you can do to the programmer (e.g.
you may be required to give him credit or not to sue him for
bugs).

--Brett Glass



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