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Date:      Tue, 12 Dec 2017 01:52:17 +0700
From:      Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net>
To:        rgrimes@freebsd.org
Cc:        Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Conrad Meyer <cem@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r326758 - in head/sys/i386: conf include
Message-ID:  <5A2ED3E1.1060908@grosbein.net>
In-Reply-To: <201712111733.vBBHX2a0082236@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
References:  <201712111733.vBBHX2a0082236@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>

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12.12.2017 0:33, Rodney W. Grimes пишет:
> [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ]
>> 11.12.2017 23:45, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>>
>>>> Understood. While I'm sure that modern internet browsers make it
>>>> uncomfortable to browse with less than 4G total RAM (e.g. 2GB) available
>>>> for the system thus requiring amd64,
>>>
>>> Browsing just fine on 2G RAM with Firefox, both under GNU/Linux and FreeBSD.
>>> Where does this "uncomfortable to browse with less than 4G total RAM" false
>>> narrative come from? :-/
>>
>> My own experience. I use FreeBSD/amd64 as my desktop and workstation since 1999
>> and Firefox under FreeBSD always leaks memory like animal female.
>> Some Firefox releases are little better than others but it's always greedy memory hog.
> 
> I suspect your amd64 version of firefox leaks memory 1.8 times faster than
> my i386 version of firefox???

Don't know.

> Do you run any i386? 

Now I run FreeBSD 11/i386 as my home router with IPSEC and torrent client, and
I run several virtualized routers with IPSEC tunnels, jabber and mail server, squid
and ZFS for src/obj/ports compression and they all easily crash unless kern.kstack_pages
raised upto 4. Same for some other my i386 installations having IPSEC tunnels.

In times of 8.0-STABLE I realised than while it's definitley *possible*
to run Firefox plus Thunderbird plus couple of small Virtualbox instances using i386,
it is much more comfortable with amd64 and 8GB of RAM, so I migrated
my desktop and workstation to 8.0-STABLE/amd64 and never looked back :-)





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