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Date:      Wed, 13 Aug 2003 02:23:53 +0400
From:      "Nickolay A. Kritsky" <nkritsky@internethelp.ru>
To:        "Devon H. O'Dell" <dodell@sitetronics.com>
Cc:        security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re[2]: Certification (was RE: realpath(3) et al)
Message-ID:  <150361279001.20030813022353@internethelp.ru>
In-Reply-To: <004201c3611f$4fda68a0$9f8d2ed5@internal>
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Hello Devon,

go to -chat please with this discussion. Or maybe to -advocacy
no oofence meant. it's just off-topic for this list.

Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 2:16:00 AM, you wrote:

DHOD> Well this takes about $1,000,000 off our previous figure.

DHOD> --Devon

>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
>> security@freebsd.org] Namens twig les
>> Verzonden: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:13 AM
>> Aan: Darren Reed
>> CC: security@freebsd.org
>> Onderwerp: Re: Certification (was RE: realpath(3) et al)
>> 
>> Just saw this from eWeek.
>> 
>> "IBM, which paid roughly $500,000 for the testing, and SuSE
>> (pronounced "SOOS-ah") were announcing the certification
>> jointly. "
>> 
>> The article is here:
>> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1212529,00.asp
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- Darren Reed <avalon@caligula.anu.edu.au> wrote:
>> > In some mail from twig les, sie said:
>> > >
>> > > I actually just asked about FreeBSD's status regarding
>> > Common
>> > > Criteria last week on -questions but no one knew; one guy
>> > > answered that it would be wasteful.  Is this the cert on
>> > > everyone's mind?  It would be nice to have this cert for the
>> > 5.x
>> > > line but I understand that it is massively expensive and the
>> > > resources may be better spent on development.  Has the team
>> > > discussed this?
>> >
>> > Yes, evaluation is massively expensive.  Why ?
>> >
>> > Because you have to pay someone (at consultant rates) to do
>> > the
>> > evaluation.  A single firewall product, in Australia, can
>> > expect
>> > a cost of between $200k and $400k, I'm told.  Now put that in
>> > perspective of size vs an entire operating system, including
>> > larger project overheads, etc, and the number swells
>> > dramatically.
>> > Oh, those numbers are in Australian Dollars.
>> >
>> > Darren
>> 
>> 
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