Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:49:50 +0930 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: "Jan B. Koum " <jkb@best.com> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why pdp11 is cool. (WAS: SCO offers Ancient Unix...) Message-ID: <19980518094950.C427@freebie.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980517122617.14500A-100000@shell6.ba.best.com>; from Jan B. Koum on Sun, May 17, 1998 at 12:32:58PM -0700 References: <19980516110820.W1953@freebie.lemis.com> <Pine.BSF.3.96.980517122617.14500A-100000@shell6.ba.best.com>
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On Sun, 17 May 1998 at 12:32:58 -0700, Jan B. Koum wrote:
> On Sat, 16 May 1998, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>
>> If anybody's interested, snoop around a bit in pdp11.lemis.com. The
>> user 'guest' has the password '2.11BSD', at least for a couple of
>> days.
>
> This box is way cool. We should keep at around, that way when
> people cry "FreeBSD doesn't see my ProTurboTechXYZ video/sound card" we
> just point them to pdp11 "good old days" machine.
Right, I intend to keep it around.
> Check this out:
>
> $ /sbin/dmesg
> phys mem = 2097152
> avail mem = 1648064
> user mem = 307200
> $ ls -l /unix
> -rwxr--r-- 1 root 146289 Mar 6 20:19 /unix
> $
>
> This is compared to:
>
> shell6: {1001} dmesg
> real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes)
> avail memory = 121163776 (118324K bytes)
> shell6: {1003} ls -l /kernel
> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8381723 Mar 27 23:26 /kernel
> shell6: {1004}
In fact, the memory size is a *big* restriction for 2.11BSD. Unlike
the Seventh Edition, it contains complete networking code (obviously),
and it only survives at all by having a relatively complex overlay
system. Even so, a large number of utilities just won't fit. Forget
just about anything GNU.
Greg
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