Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:51:40 -0500 From: Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org> To: vadim_nuclight@mail.ru Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trying to install current from a memory stick and then a DVD and got a new and strange installer. Message-ID: <4E2E1DAC.9030906@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <slrnj2ru20.2a6m.vadim_nuclight@kernblitz.nuclight.avtf.net> References: <20110724162937.33865zm0kn4ztdwk@econet.encontacto.net> <4E2C8FBE.7040003@freebsd.org> <4E2CA4A7.7020100@fuzzwad.org> <CAOjFWZ5kWsxPbNLBu%2BB01v0DN7z4RZVyAHzWv2biV6iOck__Rw@mail.gmail.com> <slrnj2ru20.2a6m.vadim_nuclight@kernblitz.nuclight.avtf.net>
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On 07/25/11 18:12, Vadim Goncharov wrote: > Hi Freddie Cash! > > On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:01:44 -0700; Freddie Cash wrote about 'Re: Trying to install current from a memory stick and then a DVD and got a new and strange installer.': > >>> 3) I see no "post-install" uses on the new one. Sysinstall could be used >> on an up-and-running system to do everything from adding a user to changing >> a nameserver and more. >> Thank goodness. The worst thing about sysinstall was that it tried to be a >> Swiss Army knife doing everything, yet not doing any one thing well. It made >> a royal mess of rc.conf if you tried to use it to configure a system. >> Usually the first time someone mentions they use it for post-install >> configuration, the recommendation is to stop doing that! >> An os installer should do just that: install the os and nothing else. > No. That's wrong. An installer should make a usable system. While using > sysinstall for configuration multiple times made a mess, it is still needed > to make configuration the _first time_ - and it really did, without any mess. > You've got a working keyboard, TTY, network, users/passwords, etc. - before > reboot. This is something which must be intuitive for a new user, even if > it is used only one time in the system's life (at the installation). Cutting > it - is a regression. > That all works perfectly fine. The issue is whether it is useful for post-install configuration, which is something different entirely. -Nathan
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