Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 21:19:26 -0300 From: "Bernardo M. Brummer" <bbrummer@solar.com.br> To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: questions-digest V5 #1647 Message-ID: <NDBBKFIIKFHOFKNOJOJJGEIACLAA.bbrummer@solar.com.br> In-Reply-To: <bulk.72330.20020928130658@hub.freebsd.org>
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:46:12 -0700
From: "C T" <willtop27@hotmail.com>
Subject: I need some help...
To whom it may concern,
My name is Craig and I am in the process of forming a non-profit
organization that takes old computers (286's etc...), setting them up for
email, word processing, internet browsing, spread sheets, and them giving
them to people who can't afford computers.
One of my obstacles is finding an OS package similar to MS-DOS, but doesn't
cost money.
Does FreeBSD distribute something simple that would operate on older
machines?
Thank you,
Craig
To do that in a 286 is possible (except for internet browsing).
I used Coherent from Mark William Co. (doesn't exits anymore) before 386BSD
came out, it uses UUCP for mailing and file interchange.
It runs nicely in 286 with 1MB (holds up to 4 serial terms) but I don't
think anyone would want to learn it for everyday use (microemacs, vi, mail,
etc.).
Older machines, with less than, say 4 or 8MB, could use a Freedos, with an
old word processor, a spreadsheet and a term emulator, and would connect as
dumb text terminals, into a FreeBSD server where pine and lynx (text apps)
could be used to access the internet.
Cheers,
Bernardo
Page 6
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:21:22 -0500
From: SweeTLeaF <SweeTLeaF@myrealbox.com>
Subject: packages for rc2
Hello ,
are there any 4.7rc2 packages as i cant find them? only the rc1 dir
for 4.7 has packages..... I was wanting to add windowmaker to my
4.7rc2 system and tried the packages from the rc1 rel as i mentioned
there are none for rc2....and it did not work with several failed to
install deps. errors. did not even install the wm package.
i sure was hopping the official 4.7 rel. was going to be a couple
days early..just in time for the weekend. :)
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:26:18 -0600
From: "Samuel Chow" <cyschow@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: updating by copying /usr/obj and /usr/src not working
> I used to be able to update systems by making world on a fast machine,
then
> copying the /usr/obj and /usr/src that resulted from that update directly
to
> other slower systems and just doing a make installworld and make
> installkernel.
>
> Recently however, when I attempt this, the install fails with something
> about problems in the /usr/lib dir (I think).
You should still be able to do that. I routinely
NFS mount /usr/src and /usr/obj from my build box
to installworld and installkernel. You might want
to show your error messages so that other to help
you with the problem.
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 01:45:09 +0000
From: "mufassa bendover" <mamasboy256@hotmail.com>
Subject: Again: There must be a better way
Listen Guys....
As a girl...I dont want to deal with that hard stuff. But also if I
install windows in my box, I will have to fix it probably at the end of
the month (girls hate fixing things).
So is there anyway you guys can solve problems for notonly me, but
other girls who have the same problem.
Thanks for the e-mails and suggesions for how to mount a cdrom, but that
wasnt my point. Because you guys are very hard core in programming,
you guys could make a better interface for this Os, which is so easy
that even my parents could use. When you combine easines and stability
together...people will buy your product desperately. you dont know
hopefully you will wipe out Microsoft.
NOTE: Linux is not the solution because there are too many dist compatibilty
issues for dist to dist.
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Date: 27 Sep 2002 19:05:12 -0700
From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen)
Subject: Re: Filesystem Question
Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> writes:
> Somewhere near:
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sbin/mount_std/mount_std.c
I didn't see *CURRENT* in the huge menu of releases, but I now see
that it's called "MAIN" there. And with cvsup it's called "HEAD".
Remarkable. (But I'll restrain myself.)
Thanks.
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:19:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Danny Pansters <dannypansters@yahoo.com>
Subject: Please don't bite again -- it gets worse and worse lately --- Re:
Again: There must be a better way
Please,
As a reader and sometimes off-list responder on our
FreeBSD lists, all I can say is that they're useful,
and that it is of course polluted by spam and
pranksters subscribing the list to other lists and
last but not least by trolls, but they are is still
_very_ useful. Keep it that way and minimize useless
responses. Certainly when it's obvious trolls. Please
just don't bite and let it go.
One reasonable hint is if the reply-to address
contains aol.com, by the way. Unfortunately this ain't
no rule of thumb.
Thanks,
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 04:22:55 +0000 (GMT)
From: Aleksander@Fafula.eu.org
Subject: Official web page of Polish users.
Hello.
Please explain me, if we as a team who made two largest Polish web sites
about FreeBSD [www.bsdzine.org and www.freebsd.okey.pl], could get
from you a subdomain for official web site of Polish users.
We want to translate docs, faqs etc. There is a quite big number of us,
and we would like to establish one efficient community here in Poland.
There are mirrors like www.pl.FreeBSD.org etc. We have enought
materials ready and under construction to fill almost whole site,
all of course in Polish language.
Please answer us and tell what you think about it.
We can first make the whole page. Then give it to you to approve it
and after good opinions from your side establish domain name etc.
That, listed in your docs, www.freebsd.org.pl is a very poor one.
Nothing is complete there, you can easly check what are the
documents like. Almost nobody uses it right now. It doesn't explain
nothing. Reading this incomplete web page is not helping FreeBSD
to be more widely used.
We are waiting for soon answer.
Kind regard from Poland.
Polish FreeBSD docs team.
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:20:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Bleichert <syborg@stny.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Bus error (core dumped) when running pkg_add
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Sren Neigaard wrote:
> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:44:57 +0200
> From: Sren Neigaard <neigaard@e-box.dk>
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Bus error (core dumped) when running pkg_add
>
> If I try to run pkg_add on either a tbz file, tgz file or without
> specifying any file, it core dumps. Here is the message:
>
> Bus error (core dumped)
> Sep 27 21:41:06 neigaard /kernel: pid 110 (pkg_add), uid 0: exited on
> signal 10
> (core dumped)
>
> What is this, is it a hardware error? I dont seem to have any other
> problems, and I have just installed this 4.6.2 on this machine without
> any problems.
>
> Please help, I don't know what to do.
>
Since no-one jumped in on this... A bus error is similar to a segfault, I
believe. It means an app tried to access some memory outside it's
accessible range or tried to access an array element outside the array's
dimensions - something of that sort. I believe a 'bus' error means
accessing a stack frame not owned by the app, or a bad access inside an
owned stack frame?
The pkg_* tools are pretty widely used and tested. This being the case I'd
guess this may be a hardware error, possibly bad RAM?
This is speculation at best. Possibly re-compile pkg_add with debug
support and run it in a debugger or try some different memory?
Which FBSD version are you runnnig? Arent there issues with the pkg_*
tools and the tbz/tgz file types at the moment?
Dunno, maybe you found a bug ? ;-)
Good luck!
JB
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:46:12 -0700
From: "C T" <willtop27@hotmail.com>
Subject: I need some help...
To whom it may concern,
My name is Craig and I am in the process of forming a non-profit
organization that takes old computers (286's etc...), setting them up for
email, word processing, internet browsing, spread sheets, and them giving
them to people who can't afford computers.
One of my obstacles is finding an OS package similar to MS-DOS, but doesn't
cost money.
Does FreeBSD distribute something simple that would operate on older
machines?
Thank you,
Craig
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Date: 27 Sep 2002 21:09:41 -0700
From: Ken McGlothlen <mcglk@artlogix.com>
Subject: Re: I need some help...
"C T" <willtop27@hotmail.com> writes:
| [...] I am in the process of forming a non-profit organization that takes
old
| computers (286's etc...), setting them up for email, word processing,
| internet browsing, spread sheets, and them giving them to people who can't
| afford computers.
|
| One of my obstacles is finding an OS package similar to MS-DOS, but
doesn't
| cost money.
|
| Does FreeBSD distribute something simple that would operate on older
| machines?
Nothing that works on '286s---only '386s and later.
You might be better off working with something that more closely emulates
MS-DOS. Check this out.
http://www.freedos.org/
And good luck.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:45:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Enrique=20Morfin?= <jemorfin@yahoo.com.mx>
Subject: Questions
Hi!
I just install freebsd to try it, maybe to change it.
I have always use linux, so maybe i'm doing something
wrong.
Where can i configure the default desktop for
users?(maybe KDE or GNOME)
How can i start or stop daemons? (httpd for example)
How can i deactivate skey passwd for remote login? (I
commented in pam, but still ask me skey passwd)
sendmail is running, but i can't send or recive mail,
never mind if i use the default sendmail.cf or i
modify it. what can i do? I'm forgotting something?
How can i prevent a daemon for start at boot time? I
have to delete it from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/?
thanks, maybe i return with more questions
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 21:53:24 -0700
From: Nathan Kinkade <nkinkade@dsl-only.net>
Subject: Re: I need some help...
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:46:12 -0700
"C T" <willtop27@hotmail.com> wrote:
> To whom it may concern,
>
> My name is Craig and I am in the process of forming a non-profit
> organization that takes old computers (286's etc...), setting them up
> for email, word processing, internet browsing, spread sheets, and them
> giving them to people who can't afford computers.
>
> One of my obstacles is finding an OS package similar to MS-DOS, but
> doesn't cost money.
>
> Does FreeBSD distribute something simple that would operate on older
> machines?
>
> Thank you,
> Craig
Craig,
I volunteer at an organization here in Portland, OR that generally does
what you are describing. It is called FreeGeek (www.freegeek.org).
FreeGeek usually recycles anything less than a Pentium (i.e. 286, 386,
486). The current processor specification for computers that are put
back out into the community are Pentium 166MHz-233MHz. The full specs
are at http://www.freegeek.org/freekbox.html. Believe it or not, we
seem to receive plenty of donated machines that fall into this range.
FreeGeek is currently installing Debian Linux on these machines. Trust
me when I tell you that even a P166 with 80MB RAM (72 pin SIMMs) is just
fast enough to make X, Mozilla and a few other applications run
reasonably. Of course, if you plan to put out non-graphical, text only,
console basesd machines then a lower spec may work for you. In any
case, if you plan to run X and any sort of browser you probably don't
want to go below a P100, and even this is pushing it a bit. I've talked
to a few people at FreeGeek about getting FreeBSD on some of the boxes,
but they are too firmly entrenched in Linux.
Good luck,
Nathan
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 00:54:10 -0500
From: Bryan Cassidy <bryanc2000@insightbb.com>
Subject: xterm and colors
I have read a few threads on bsdforums.org about settings the colors for
xterm when i use the "ls" command. I tried what people said to do but came
up with nothing. They really didn't specify to clear how to do this. When I
use the "ls -G" command I get color in xterm while in X. How do i set the
colors so when I just use "ls" I get the color directories and the rest of
colors? I just want the basic colors that I can get without having to do
alot of configuring. I think it just makes it a little easier to view things
in the terminal when you have a little color to go on. Maybe its me but it
makes it easier on me so any help would be appreciated.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 07:50:48 +0200
From: Jens Rehsack <rehsack@liwing.de>
Subject: Re: Upgrading ports from sources outside ports tree
"Inge Thorin Eidsther" wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> General question:
> Does anyone know how to upgrade a port when the latest sources are
> available on the net, but haven't made it into the ports tree yet?
>
> Example:
> I need to rebuild mod_php4 (for Apache2) from the latest sources,
> because of a bug that (among other things) causes the file_exists
> function in php 4.2.3 to work incorrectly. The bug has been fixed
> in the latest sources, but these are (as far as I can tell) not
> in the FreeBSD ports tree yet.
>
> Is there some manual way to do it that does not require me to be
> an experienced programmer? I tried renaming the source tarball to
> that of the old one, and build with NO_CHECKSUM=yes
> (and WITH_APACHE2=yes), but the thing blew up complaining about
> patches that failed to apply cleanly.
Your main problem is, that the PHP4-dev (cvs snapshot) requires
libtool 1.4, but there's only 1.3 in ports tree.
If you really want to do this, write to a php4-support list.
There is a php4-developer, derick@php.net, he is a very cooperatively
person, he runs php4-dev under FreeBSD, maybe he can help you.
> BTW: I know about portupgrade, but I guess it's not relevant here.
Yes, that's right ...
> Thanks for your kind help!
Hope this helps a little ...
Bye,
Jens
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 01:18:14 -0500
From: "Charles Pelletier" <fozekizer@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: I need some help...
quite honestly, i think you are wasting your time working with 286's. even
people who can't afford computers know better than to use a pre Pentium
machine. while you do have a noble cause in mind, you must realize that
286's, even with tweaking, can hardly even run DOS, let alone connect to the
modern internet.
good luck, but you're better using anything less than a 486 as a step stool
or paperweight.
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From: "Nathan Kinkade" <nkinkade@dsl-only.net>
To: "C T" <willtop27@hotmail.com>
Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: I need some help...
> On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:46:12 -0700
> "C T" <willtop27@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > To whom it may concern,
> >
> > My name is Craig and I am in the process of forming a non-profit
> > organization that takes old computers (286's etc...), setting them up
> > for email, word processing, internet browsing, spread sheets, and them
> > giving them to people who can't afford computers.
> >
> > One of my obstacles is finding an OS package similar to MS-DOS, but
> > doesn't cost money.
> >
> > Does FreeBSD distribute something simple that would operate on older
> > machines?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Craig
>
>
> Craig,
>
> I volunteer at an organization here in Portland, OR that generally does
> what you are describing. It is called FreeGeek (www.freegeek.org).
> FreeGeek usually recycles anything less than a Pentium (i.e. 286, 386,
> 486). The current processor specification for computers that are put
> back out into the community are Pentium 166MHz-233MHz. The full specs
> are at http://www.freegeek.org/freekbox.html. Believe it or not, we
> seem to receive plenty of donated machines that fall into this range.
> FreeGeek is currently installing Debian Linux on these machines. Trust
> me when I tell you that even a P166 with 80MB RAM (72 pin SIMMs) is just
> fast enough to make X, Mozilla and a few other applications run
> reasonably. Of course, if you plan to put out non-graphical, text only,
> console basesd machines then a lower spec may work for you. In any
> case, if you plan to run X and any sort of browser you probably don't
> want to go below a P100, and even this is pushing it a bit. I've talked
> to a few people at FreeGeek about getting FreeBSD on some of the boxes,
> but they are too firmly entrenched in Linux.
>
> Good luck,
> Nathan
>
> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
>
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:30:35 +1000
From: Duncan Anker <d.anker@au.darkbluesea.com>
Subject: Re: sendmail: File descriptors missing on startup: stderr; Bad file
descriptor
On Friday, Sep 27, 2002, at 23:03 Australia/Brisbane, Dan Langille
wrote:
> I keep seeing this in /var/log/maillog but do not know the cause:
>
> sendmail[42390]: File descriptors missing on startup: stderr; Bad
> file descriptor
>
> I'm on FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE #0: Thu Sep 26 09:02:16 EDT 2002 with
> sendmail 8.12.5
>
> Any ideas on cause/fix?
I believe Dan has solved his problem, however I ran into this one
recently and a scour of Google suggested that this can also be caused
by a misbehaving hard drive. So if other folks are seeing this, try an
fsck.
I believe this is the source of my problem, since my disk is bad.
However, the file system is still dirty and I can't take the box
offline to fix it yet, so I don't know if it's just a coincidence.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 02:53:53 -0400
From: Kirk Bailey <idiot1@netzero.net>
Subject: Another Apache CGI problem
I run apache with FreeBSD, and have an interesting issue.
I can do exec '<!--#cmd', but not '<!--#exec cgi'. I want to set up so it
will
do exec cgi, but ONLY in a domain's cgi-bin, and not execute any opsys
commands,to help insure a secure server. Any advice?
end
Respectfully,
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 08:55:58 +0200
From: Frank Heitmann <fh31415@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: xterm and colors
On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 12:54:10AM -0500, Bryan Cassidy wrote:
> How do i set the colors so when I just use "ls" I get the color
> directories and the rest of colors? I just want the basic colors
> that I can get without having to do alot of configuring.
Have you set your TERM environment variable to 'xterm-color' ?
The way to do this differs depending on the shell you use, if it's
bash just type:
export TERM=xterm-color
if it's csh type:
setenv TERM xterm-color
(There are more shells, look at the man page of your shell for more
details!)
Hope that helps,
Cheers and Good Morning :)
Frank
P.S. I have read that in new versions of FreeBSD the TERM variable
is set to xterm-color by default, but I have forgotten if this is
already done in -stable or if this is done in -current - and I
don't know which version of FreeBSD you are running :)
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:54:30 +0259
From: Aleksey Ovcharenko <alexovch@ic.kharkov.ua>
Subject: Re: XP Windows and Nat
On Thursday 26 September 2002 11:07, Grant Cooper wrote:
> I have am using FreeBSD as a firewall and just recently upgraded to an =
XP
> box. Not so much a problem but my Network connection gives me a warning
> every 15 - 20 min saying my internet connection is down. Then it
> re-connects. About a 5-6 sec delay. Never had this problem with Windows=
98
> and still don't. Think maby a windows driver is causing the problem?
>
I had same problem. Just turn off XP firewall.
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Sincerely Yours, Aleksey Ovcharenko
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:09:34 +0800
From: suken woo <wsk@mail.gddsn.org.cn>
Subject: question on multi OSes&disks
folks:
before add a new disk , my original disk was installed winxp+FBSD4.7 on
primary driver0.
but after add disk to my box and install current on it ,i found my xp
cannot boot by bootmgr.
and the BIOS display my orginally disk has become on primary driver1.the
new disk on primary dirver0 .is the xp dont know self has become on
driver1 so it can boot?and how to do?
thanks in advance.
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:42:35 +0930
From: Brian Astill <bastill@sa.apana.org.au>
Subject: Re: Again: There must be a better way
On Saturday 28 September 2002 11:15, mufassa bendover wrote <compaining>:
For goodness sake - have you tried simply
"mount /cdrom"?
That will work provided you have the right settings in /etc/fstab , and you
almost certainly already have.
The only comment I would make in your favour is that some advice from this
list is far and away more complex than it needs to be. However, it IS
usually right, too.
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Brian
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 03:16:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Fuzzy <fuzzy@pooh.ASARian.org>
Subject: Re: I need some help...
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Charles Pelletier wrote:
> quite honestly, i think you are wasting your time working with 286's. even
> people who can't afford computers know better than to use a pre Pentium
> machine. while you do have a noble cause in mind, you must realize that
> 286's, even with tweaking, can hardly even run DOS, let alone connect to
the
> modern internet.
> good luck, but you're better using anything less than a 486 as a step
stool
> or paperweight.
We've used 386sx/8's with Slackware Linux from the 0.99 kernel forward,
for both desktop, (shell and shell applications), as well as a server
system. I agree though, you need at least a 386 class (with the CPU
having v386 mode), for anything practical. For M$ OSes at least
a pentium class (win98 really needs the resources).
We put machines together from donated parts and systems for our clients,
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 02:26:04 -0500
From: Christopher Farley <chris@northernbrewer.com>
Subject: Help! Broken libc!
I believe that one of my machines has a hardware problem that
occasionally corrupts disk writes.
As luck would have it, I also suspect that my /usr/lib/libc.so.4
became corrupt during my last buildworld a few days ago.
I now get 'internal compiler errors' whenever I try to compile any
program with g++.
I compared the md5 hashes of various system files to those of another
4.7-RC machine I updated at about the same time.
The libc.so.4 hash is different, so I suspect it may be the source of my
problem. It also appears that replacing this file is somewhat
non-trivial. When I attempt to remove the file, I get an "Operation
not permitted," probably because it's linked to a ton of running
programs.
Is there even a way to replace this file?
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 00:55:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bsd Neophyte <bsdneophyte@yahoo.com>
Subject: f-prot's free anti-virus utility for FreeBSD
has anyone had any experience with this product? they say it's free for
home users.
is it good... is it bad?
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 04:03:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Fuzzy <fuzzy@pooh.ASARian.org>
Subject: Re: f-prot's free anti-virus utility for FreeBSD
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Bsd Neophyte wrote:
>
> has anyone had any experience with this product? they say it's free for
> home users.
>
> is it good... is it bad?
do you have a URL for the product?
Fuz
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:52:49 +0100
From: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Apache CGI problem
On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 05:49:52AM +0800, Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim wrote:
> I finally found the cause of the problem. PHP 4.2.3. I commented
> the LoadModule and AddModule clauses in httpd.conf and bam!, all
> CGIs and Perls work as healthy as they can be. Solved a problem
> only to bring up another.
> Can someone verify whether my case is an anomaly or something
> previously undocumented?
Yup. I saw this right before leaving my old job, which is why I
haven't had an opportunity to follow it up. It affects the
apache13-modssl port, but not the apache2 port. I don't know about
any of the other apache variants.
Cheers,
Matthew
- --
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Savill Way
Marlow
Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:22:42 +0100
From: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Subject: Re: updating rc releases
On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 03:12:07PM -0500, SweeTLeaF wrote:
> If 4.7RC2 was installed, could it be cvs updated to the 4.7 release
> when its available?
Yes, easily. All of the 4.x PRERELEASE, RC1, RC2 and STABLE versions
all derive from the RELENG_4 cvs branch. (RC1, RC2 are just snapshots
of the tree at certain times). 4.7-RELEASE will be similarly
generated from the RELENG-4 branch, but instead of taking a snapshot,
a new branch RELENG_4_7 will be created. If you've been tracking
- -STABLE up until 4.7-RELEASE come out, and you want to switch to
tracking 4.7-RELEASE, all you need to do is modify your cvs supfile to
change:
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
to
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_7
and re-run cvsup, make buildworld in the usual way.
Cheers,
Matthew
- --
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Savill Way
Marlow
Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 13:22:11 +0300
From: "Giorgos Keramidas" <keramida@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: Again: There must be a better way
"mufassa bendover" <mamasboy256@hotmail.com> writes:
| Listen Guys....
| As a girl...I dont want to deal with that hard stuff. But also if I
| install windows in my box, I will have to fix it probably at the end =
of
| the month (girls hate fixing things).
There's nothing inherently man-like about "fixing" things.
You either like, or you don't. Sexism is unrelated to this :-)
| Because you guys are very hard core in programming,
| you guys could make a better interface for this Os,
| which is so easy that even my parents could use.
There are efforts towards that end. Have you checked KDE
or Gnome, the GUI desktops that run on top of FreeBSD?
| NOTE: Linux is not the solution because there are too
| many dist compatibilty issues for dist to dist.
| ----Jessica Olaya
And this is not a question. Many thanks for thinking about
ways that would make FreeBSD more popular, but this is not
the right list to post such things. Try freebsd-advocacy.
There are already a lot of people who are subscribed there,
who know a lot about the topic than all the subscribers of
freebsd-questions.
Giorgos.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 11:26:31 +0100
From: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Questions
On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 11:45:08PM -0500, Enrique Morfin wrote:
> Where can i configure the default desktop for
> users?(maybe KDE or GNOME)
When you create a new user account, with for instance, pw(8) or
adduser(8), and tell it to create the home directory for the account,
the default directory contents are copied from /usr/share/skel --- any
files in there called 'dot.foo' will be renamed to '.foo' as a
convenience.
You can create your own version of the skeleton directory containing
you own customised version of configuration files and use that as an
alternative:
pw useradd -n newuser -m -k /usr/local/share/skel ...
or
adduser -dotdir /usr/local/share/skel ...
You can also use 'pw usermod -m -k /usr/local/share/skel' to add any
missing dotfiles to a preexisting account.
> How can i start or stop daemons? (httpd for example)
Daemons that are added through the package or ports system will have
start/stop scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d or /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d which
you can use for that purpose:
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh start
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh stop
Note: you need to type the whole path, as shown.
Note2: many ports/packages will install sample startup files as
eg. 'spamd.sh-dist' which you are expected to customize and copy to
'spamd.sh' in order to have that service start up automatically on
reboot.
For daemons that are supplied as standard with the system and are
started from the /etc/rc.* scripts, generally you manage them by using
kill(1) to send signals of various types to the process. Most daemons
will create a pid file in /var/run so, for example, to make syslogd(8)
re-read it's configuration file:
kill -HUP `cat /var/run/syslogd.pid`
Unfortunately, there is no standardized method to do this, and certain
daemons do things their own way. Read the man pages and search
through the startup scripts /etc/rc.* --- particularly /etc/rc.conf
and /etc/defaults/rc.conf --- for clues. sendmail(8) can be
controlled through the Makefile in /etc/mail ---
cd /etc/mail
make restart
and named(8) has a special controlling program ndc(8) (for bind-8.3.3
as bundled with the system. If you install the bind9 port, the
equivalent command is rndc(8))
> How can i deactivate skey passwd for remote login? (I
> commented in pam, but still ask me skey passwd)
In general, if a user account has had an opie password set via
opiepasswd(1), and thus there is an appropriate entry in the
/etc/opiekeys file (opiekeys(5)) then the user will be required to use
opie one time passwords for any login.
Pretty much everything now respects the setting in /etc/pam.conf, so
you can control things that way. Additionally, there is a setting in
/etc/ssh/sshd_config (sshd_config(5)) which can be used to disable PAM
authentication (and hence opie):
# Change to no to disable PAM authentication
#ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes
(uncomment and change to 'no' if that's what you want to do).
> sendmail is running, but i can't send or recive mail,
> never mind if i use the default sendmail.cf or i
> modify it. what can i do? I'm forgotting something?
There's far too many ways for this not to work that I can't even
hazard a guess as to what's wrong. Please post any error messages
that sendmail generates --- those are logged into /var/log/maillog ---
and the .mc file you are using to generate your sendmail.cf
> How can i prevent a daemon for start at boot time? I
> have to delete it from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/?
Yes --- you can delete or preferably rename the startup scripts in the
rc.d directories to disable them. The scripts have to end in '.sh' in
order to be run automatically at startup/shutdown.
For system daemons, generally you add an entry to /etc/rc.conf saying:
foo_enable="NO"
to achieve the same effect.
Cheers,
Matthew
- --
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks
Savill Way
Marlow
Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:38:54 +0200
From: Lauri Watts <lauri@kde.org>
Subject: Re: Again: There must be a better way
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> Listen Guys....
> As a girl...I dont want to deal with that hard stuff. But also if I
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> the month (girls hate fixing things).
> So is there anyway you guys can solve problems for notonly me, but
> other girls who have the same problem.
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 11:39:31 +0100
From: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Subject: Re: xterm and colors
On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 12:54:10AM -0500, Bryan Cassidy wrote:
> I have read a few threads on bsdforums.org about settings the colors
> for xterm when i use the "ls" command. I tried what people said to
> do but came up with nothing. They really didn't specify to clear how
> to do this. When I use the "ls -G" command I get color in xterm
> while in X. How do i set the colors so when I just use "ls" I get
> the color directories and the rest of colors? I just want the basic
> colors that I can get without having to do alot of configuring. I
> think it just makes it a little easier to view things in the
> terminal when you have a little color to go on. Maybe its me but it
> makes it easier on me so any help would be appreciated.
In your ~/.cshrc or ~/.shrc or ~/.bashrc (or the appropriate file for
which ever shell you use), set up an alias:
alias ls ls -G (csh-alikes)
or
alias ls="ls -G" (sh, bash)
You should then get a colourized ls for every shell you start after
doing that.
Cheers,
Matthew
- --
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks
Savill Way
Marlow
Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 11:50:19 +0100
From: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Help! Broken libc!
On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 02:26:04AM -0500, Christopher Farley wrote:
> The libc.so.4 hash is different, so I suspect it may be the source of my
> problem. It also appears that replacing this file is somewhat
> non-trivial. When I attempt to remove the file, I get an "Operation
> not permitted," probably because it's linked to a ton of running
> programs.
>
> Is there even a way to replace this file?
Copy the good version of the libc.so.4 file onto your broken machine
using a different filename:
scp goodmachine:/usr/lib/libc.so.4 /usr/lib/libc.so.4.good
Shut your machine down, and then boot up to single user mode, and move
the bad file out of the way and the good file into place. This file
is marked immutable using chflags(1) so depending on what security
level you run at, you may need to be in single user to do anything.
It's a good idea to go to single user whenever when you're fiddling
with something so vital to the system:
shutdown -r now
[...]
cd /usr/lib
chflags -0 libc.so.4
mv libc.so.4 libc.so.4.bad
mv libc.so.4.good libc.so.4
chmod 444 libc.so.4
chown root:wheel libc.so.4
chflags schg libc.so.4
and then immediately reboot.
Cheers,
Matthew
- --
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Savill Way
Marlow
Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:51:15 +0000 (GMT)
From: 520023893678-0001@t-online.de (Peter Ulrich Kruppa)
Subject: Re: samba server as a PDC
As a small Thank-You for all your help a little bit of
information I found during reading manuals:
If you whish to delete user's profiles automagically from your
local machines after user logged off:
Open
regedt32.exe
and set
HKEY_LOCALMACHINE\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion
\WinLogon\DeleteRoamingCache
to 1 (Data Type REG_SZ).
I think this is very useful on networks with few machines and
many users - it will prevent them from using old profiles lying
around on some local machine.
Regards,
Uli.
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to set up a samba server as a primary domain
> controller for about 30 NT and Win2000 machines (and about 800
> users). Password administration and homes services seem to work
> ok.
> But the machines should also be able to read the user's profile
> from the server when logging on and write them back when logging
> off("roaming profiles"). This only works for users with root
> access to the server.
> "Ordinary" users can read their profile when starting up, but
> logging off they receive an "access denied" message.
> I guess, I have to set permissions correctly, but I have no idea
> how.
> My users belong to group called samba, their profiles are stored
> in a directory /usr/local/samba/profiles .
>
> Any idea what could be done?
>
> Thanks for your answers.
>
>
> Uli.
>
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> * Germany *
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 13:49:07 +0200
From: Janine C.Buorditez <johann@broadpark.no>
Subject: named rejecting all kinds of serials
hi.
Sep 28 13:22:50 ninja named[87]: master zone "terrabionic.com" (IN) rejected
due to errors (serial 2002092801)
now, isn't this the valid serial for today?
i've tried all kinds of dates; past, current and future. with zero, one and
two
digits in the last field.
this is quite annoying as everything on my system depends on terrabionic.com
being functional.
thanks.
- --janine
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 04:56:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bsd Neophyte <bsdneophyte@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: f-prot's free anti-virus utility for FreeBSD
sure thing...
http://www.f-prot.com/download/getfpfreebsd.html
- --- Fuzzy <fuzzy@pooh.ASARian.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Bsd Neophyte wrote:
>
> >
> > has anyone had any experience with this product? they say it's free
> for
> > home users.
> >
> > is it good... is it bad?
>
> do you have a URL for the product?
>
>
> Fuz
>
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:04:30 +0200
From: Mathieu Arnold <mat@mat.cc>
Subject: Re: named rejecting all kinds of serials
- --On samedi 28 septembre 2002 13:49 +0200 "Janine C.Buorditez"
<johann@broadpark.no> wrote:
> hi.
>
> Sep 28 13:22:50 ninja named[87]: master zone "terrabionic.com" (IN)
> rejected due to errors (serial 2002092801)
>
> now, isn't this the valid serial for today?
>
> i've tried all kinds of dates; past, current and future. with zero, one
> and two digits in the last field.
>
> this is quite annoying as everything on my system depends on
> terrabionic.com being functional.
The thing is that it is not the serial that is invalid, but the zone file.
named tells you the serial number because you might have different versions
of it.
- --
Mathieu Arnold
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:38:26 +0300
From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
Subject: Re: question on multi OSes&disks
On 2002-09-28 15:09, suken woo <wsk@ns.gddsn.org.cn> wrote:
> folks:
> before add a new disk , my original disk was installed winxp+FBSD4.7
> on primary driver0. but after add disk to my box and install
> current on it ,i found my xp cannot boot by bootmgr. and the BIOS
> display my orginally disk has become on primary driver1.the new disk
> on primary dirver0 .is the xp dont know self has become on driver1
> so it can boot?and how to do?
I'm not sure if I got everything you wrote, but...
Have you checked to make sure that the jumpers on both disks are
correctly set for their respective master/slave state?
Giorgos.
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 13:00:22 +0000
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:48:00 +0200 (CEST)
From: Oliver Fromme <olli@secnetix.de>
Subject: Re: named rejecting all kinds of serials
Mathieu Arnold <mat@mat.cc> wrote:
> --On samedi 28 septembre 2002 13:49 +0200 "Janine C.Buorditez"
> <johann@broadpark.no> wrote:
> > Sep 28 13:22:50 ninja named[87]: master zone "terrabionic.com" (IN)
> > rejected due to errors (serial 2002092801)
> >
> > now, isn't this the valid serial for today?
> >
> > i've tried all kinds of dates; past, current and future. with zero, one
> > and two digits in the last field.
>
> The thing is that it is not the serial that is invalid, but the zone
file.
> named tells you the serial number because you might have different
versions
> of it.
Furthermore, the serial number has got nothing to do with
the date, even though many people use the date for it.
So there is no such thing as a "valid serial for today".
The serial is just a number. You can as well start with
"1" and increase by 1 each time you change it, independent
of the date.
The only thing that's _really_ important is that you never
decrease the number, and never overflow the (signed) 32bit
range. Otherwise, secondary servers will not accept any
changes in your zone. There's a special procedure involved
to fix such a problem; it's described in RFC 1912, I think.
Bye the way, RFC 1912 is definitely recommended reading for
anybody who operates a name server or who is responsible
for zone files.
Regards
Oliver
- --
Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 Mnchen
Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author
and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way.
"All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe)
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:12:41 +0200
From: Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@bellavista.cz>
Subject: Re: Upgrading ports from sources outside ports tree
# rehsack@liwing.de / 2002-09-28 07:50:48 +0200:
> "Inge Thorin Eids?ther" wrote:
> > I need to rebuild mod_php4 (for Apache2) from the latest sources,
> > because of a bug that (among other things) causes the file_exists
> > function in php 4.2.3 to work incorrectly. The bug has been fixed
> > in the latest sources, but these are (as far as I can tell) not
> > in the FreeBSD ports tree yet.
> >
> > Is there some manual way to do it that does not require me to be
> > an experienced programmer? I tried renaming the source tarball to
> > that of the old one, and build with NO_CHECKSUM=yes
> > (and WITH_APACHE2=yes), but the thing blew up complaining about
> > patches that failed to apply cleanly.
>
> Your main problem is, that the PHP4-dev (cvs snapshot) requires
> libtool 1.4, but there's only 1.3 in ports tree.
That's not actually a problem. Libtool compiles cleanly on FreeBSD
(precisely: I have never had a single problem), so you can just
* download required versions of libtool and other autotools
(automake, autoconf...), and install them in, say, /opt.
* configure, and compile php:
% PATH=/opt/bin:$PATH ./buildconf
% PATH=/opt/bin:$PATH ./configure --with-this --enable-that
i don't use apache-2.0 yet (especially as the php4 developers
themselves say combination of apache-2.0 with php4 is alpha quality
at best), but this has always worked for me building HEAD checkouts
which i need to get decent CLI support.
> There is a php4-developer, derick@php.net, he is a very cooperatively
> person, he runs php4-dev under FreeBSD, maybe he can help you.
Derick Rethans is indeed one of the greatest assets of the php
community.
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