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Date:      Wed, 06 Dec 2000 10:02:57 -0600
From:      "Jeffrey J. Mountin" <jeff-ml@mountin.net>
To:        Peter Pentchev <roam@orbitel.bg>, David Talkington <dtalk@prairienet.org>
Cc:        Vladimir Dubrovin <vlad@sandy.ru>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: All this SPAM...
Message-ID:  <4.3.2.20001206093926.00b7a670@207.227.119.2>
In-Reply-To: <20001206170147.D17399@ringworld.oblivion.bg>
References:  <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012060857380.2395-100000@sherman.spotnet.org> <9862415618.20001206125714@sandy.ru> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012060857380.2395-100000@sherman.spotnet.org>

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At 05:01 PM 12/6/00 +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote:
>On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 08:59:03AM -0600, David Talkington wrote:
> >
> > ...and/or perhaps it would be appropriate to at least only allow posts
> > from subscribed email addresses?
>
>This is not necessarily a good thing - many people need assistance with
>one particular issue, and do not feel like plodding through the traffic
>from all the other threads.

While I am all for closing the list(s) there is this reason you 
mention.  However, can only recall 2 such occurrences this year where a 
non-subscriber had a question and asked for a CC (there may be others, but 
these were implicit).  On *both* occasions the question was *not* pertinent 
to -security, so see little actual usefulness to the policy.

Am only pointing this out since years back I made the same wish.  I 
think.  Do know that I wasn't happy about the subscriber lists being 
obtainable.  Eventually that did change (Hi jmb!).


To forestall a useless and OT debate on this, it would be best to hear from 
-core on a possible policy change.  Doubt it will happen, but one can 
always hope. 8-)

(was tempted to CC core, but can live with the current policy)

Aw hell.

One idea for closing the lists and still allow non-subscribers would use to 
use an e-mail gateway from the support web pages.  Not that I am 
volunteering code, but just to make a point, since they are in the list of 
things one should do before contacting a list with questions and then they 
might do so to the proper list.

As for a moderated list, who wants to play babysittter?
Didn't think so. ;)


Pardon my ramblings, but have been here before, so only thought to present 
the dead horse for viewing and will bury it once more.


Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net
Systems/Network Administrator
FreeBSD - the power to serve



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