Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:44:05 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner <luvbeastie@larseighner.com> To: Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HAL must die! Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1103071048200.903@abbf.onfvpvfc.arg> In-Reply-To: <il2qar$ka1$1@dough.gmane.org> References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1103061251530.95312@abbf.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <il2qar$ka1$1@dough.gmane.org>
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On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Ivan Voras wrote: > On 06/03/2011 19:56, Lars Eighner wrote: >> Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL off in >> ports that I install or upgrade. Is there a way to make this a global >> default? >> >> Is there a (convenient) way to list ports that might pull in HAL without >> having a configuration switch? > > Um, why exactly are so many people against HAL? It breaks my mouse and keyboard. I assume it would break other stuff if I had esoteric devices. It was born broken, and although there have been about a half-dozen announced fixes, it always reverts to being broken in pretty much the same way. When I eliminate HAL and everything that depends on it, everything works. It is just this simple: with HAL = nothing works without HAL = everything works > It's the only cross-platform thing available for non-Linux systems which > handles device enumeration, hotplugs, etc. > I'm not running a cross-platform. I'm running FreeBSD. There were native FreeBSD solutions to hotplugging the devices I use before HAL. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266
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