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Date:      Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:16:02 +0100
From:      Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr>
To:        Dan Langille <dan@langille.org>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: The beastie boot menu.
Message-ID:  <1101752162.41ab6762ab0b2@imp4-q.free.fr>
In-Reply-To: <41AB14CF.28995.7F450DD1@localhost>
References:  <20041129024602.GA23324@turingmachine.mentalsiege.net> <41AB14CF.28995.7F450DD1@localhost>

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Quoting Dan Langille <dan@langille.org>:
> On 29 Nov 2004 at 18:14, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
>
> > More evidence that FreeBSD is losing all touch with regular users.
>
> Yes.  Exactly... huh?  Oh yeah, we're missing a ;) above.

No, no smiley.  But I agree I can't speak for all regular users.
I'm speaking for myself, and at various times others have said the
same for themselves.

I used to like FreeBSD -- the system and the community.  I'm no longer
comfortable with either.  The change began, for me, when Matt Dillon was
chucked out: it seemed odd then but it now seems just another example of
how new thinking is simply not tolerated.

My own capacity for contributing is very limited, but some time back I
made a posting offering to try upgrade the system's man command to the
most recent GNU version (which offers the nice feature that you can
read a manpage foo.1 in your current directory with "man ./foo.1" without
installing it).  As I expected, I received not a single constructive
comment, but several comments on why it was not necessary because you
can use a groff command to read a manpage page instead.  In fact there
were three mails making corrections to the exact groff command required,
but the irony of expecting regular users to know all this seemed lost
on the posters.

That kind of thinking pervades FreeBSD. The removal of the login menu is
just the latest example.

I now use Dragonfly for self-education and Linux for something that works
with my hardware.

Rahul



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