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Date:      Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:16:16 +0200
From:      Michael Larsen <mlarsen@tech-nic.net>
To:        small@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: What now?
Message-ID:  <37691F50.BD7BE4A4@tech-nic.net>
References:  <3766629A.6231@cs.strath.ac.uk> <004401beb7fa$693831b0$c12ad9c1@age.jobak.no> <19990617085740.12511@welearn.com.au>

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Hi

I can only strongly agree to what sue says, in fact i think it's the
ONLY way..
But if you have a urgent need for a working version, I can make you
a prober iso file, that you can use on a floppy.
Send me a mail including:
Type of hardware (inside/outside)
You ip addresse (official, and preffered if you use, or want to use NAT)
list of roules (allow /deny) for you network.
Etc.
The version i make has no editor nor has it any telnet, telnetd or snmp.
In fack it's a pretty striped version, made only from a security 
point of view.
Realy the only thing you have to change is the root password.
an run update (And you should) :)
I build from (NET) V.044.

Regards
Michael Larsen

Sue Blake wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 03:16:14PM +0200, Åge J. Haugstad wrote:
> > I have never used any unix system before, but I found that PicoBSD
> > might be suitable as an economic router/firewall.
> 
> You always get what you pay for. With free unix you pay for it with study.
> Unix is not designed to be user-friendly, but it is designed to do its
> job very well. You have to become machine-friendly instead.
> 
> PicoBSD is the worst way to learn unix that I can think of. It is a
> very cut down version of a large powerful operating system, set up to
> do a specific task for those who know what they are doing. There is no
> documentation, no "help", you just have to know it.
> 
> A better idea would be to get yourself a 486 or better with at least
> 300MB disk space and install FreeBSD, not PicoBSD, and start learning.
> Buy the new (3rd) edition of The Complete FreeBSD and work through it.
> The book comes with a set of CDs from which you can install FreeBSD
> and thousands of programs.
> 
> Go to www.freebsd.org and from there:
> 1 Follow the link at the bottom to FreeBSD Mall to buy the book and CDs
> 2 Follow the link under Documentation to the Newbies guide, and explore
>   the many links on that page.
> 
> Your 486 with a normal installation of FreeBSD will become a cheap
> router and firewall, about the time that you become someone who is
> actively learning about unix.
> 
> Much later, when you really know what you're doing, you can apply what
> you know to using PicoBSD on a machine with less disk space, if you
> have a need to do it that way.
> 
> Well that's my opinion. Others on this list are welcome to disagree.
> 
> --
> 
> Regards,
>         -*Sue*-
> 
> 
> 
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