Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:10:26 +0100 From: Ceri <setantae@submonkey.net> To: "Philip J. Koenig" <pjklist@ekahuna.com> Cc: Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hub.freebsd.org spam policy Message-ID: <20020405101026.GC15938@submonkey.net> In-Reply-To: <20020405074448067.AAA353@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com> References: <20020404223902.G2470@rain.macguire.net> <20020405074448067.AAA353@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com>
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On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 11:44:48PM -0800, Philip J. Koenig wrote:
> Virtually all high-profile mailing lists today ask for verification
> of subscriptions because to not do so entails a plethora of problems
> - from spamming, flooding, pranksters who subscribe people against
> their will, etc. I don't have to "presume" this, it is just a simple
> fact. The only case where I think "single opt-in" is a reasonable
> option for a list maintainer are one-way lists where users cannot
> post messages. (and only when there is a very high degree of
> confidence that users want to be on the list - such as companies or
> other entities where you already have a relationship with them)
>
> The interesting thing is that now the freebsd lists require
> authentication. Greg claims it's been this way "for years",
> yet A) I see no evidence of this when I subscribed to 5 freebsd lists
> at one time back in 11/2000 (I save everything including the
> majordomo response messages) and B) it makes no sense if people were
> truly arguing passionately to provide "open access". So which is it -
> are the lists "open access" or not? If they aren't, how could the
> last sentence of this assertion of yours make any sense:
>
> > Often, new users will email the list with one or two questions,
> > and have no interest or need to follow it after that. Signing up
> > for a list, confirming, asking your questions, getting your
> > answers, and then unsubscribing, is something of a hassle.
> > Presumably the list postmasters considered this, and opted for user
> > needs.
To clarify the situation :
To subscribe to a list requires confirmation.
To post to a list does not, nor do you need to be subscribed.
I don't remember a time when this was any different (but then I've only
been subscribed for 18 months or so).
Ceri
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