Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:34:06 -0800 (PST) From: "John A. Hengstler" <john@salmon.hei.net> To: George Wenzel <gee2@realtime.net> Cc: Troy Settle <rewt@i-Plus.net>, "(ML) FreeBSD ISP" <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Aliased IPs Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.02A.9812180733570.21527-100000@salmon.hei.net> In-Reply-To: <367A0AFC.49D5@realtime.net>
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Here Here!
John Hengstler
On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, George Wenzel wrote:
> Troy Settle wrote:
> >
> > If you want to talk about inefficient use of IP space, look at the people
> > who still hold their Class-{A,B,C} networks. Having this portable space
> > is insane, especially when a university has 2 Class-B networks, and then
> > subnets it out so that a lab with 24 workstations has a full /24.
> >
> > A Class-A has >16 million addresses. Can anyone on this list suggest any
> > organization that can make _efficient_ use of it? No? Didn't think so.
> >
> I have several corporate customers with B's. Most of them got the
> addresses
> well before connecting to the Internet. These are medium to small
> firms.
> I've got huge clients existing on much less.
>
> There is a LOT of space that needs to be harvested from inefficient
> allocation. ISP's need to be the leaders of efficiency. If we were to
> do our job correctly, those inefficient allocations should be able to
> be eliminated in a painless manner... no one should have to renumber.
> NAT has it's flaws, but sooner or later we will all be using it. ISP's
> should be able to maintain their own address space consisting of as many
> full address spaces as they feel like translating. Part of what we need
> is better central site software and systems, but that is coming.
>
> I'm confident the world will never run out of ip addresses. When we
> think
> we are out, we will learn to multiply. It is really a simple
> engineering
> problem.
>
> There are no limits except those in our heads.
>
> George
>
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