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Date:      Fri, 1 Apr 2016 17:06:53 -0700
From:      Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com>
To:        Brian Fundakowski Feldman <brianfundakowskifeldman@gmail.com>
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Luiz Otavio O Souza <loos@freebsd.org>,  "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" <embedded@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: spigen(4) SPI Generic IO interface -- need comments
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ok. So this just attaches to each spibus that is found, right?

Can you share your example program(s)? I'd like to see how you used
the mmap version.


-adrian


On 1 April 2016 at 14:23, Brian Fundakowski Feldman
<brianfundakowskifeldman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Great! I think the last part I wanted to have was a manpage that covered
> configuring the device tree (dump, edit, rebuild) because that was fairly
> non-obvious to me. I have only tested it on the RPi2 myself.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016, 5:12 PM Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> hihi!
>>
>> ok, I'd now like to resurrect this - I'll take a look and see what's
>> missing before we throw it into the tree. I'd like to use this for the
>> atheros MIPS SPI stuff so i can more efficiently speak to an LCD. :P
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> -adrian
>>
>>
>> On 22 August 2015 at 17:27, Brian Fundakowski Feldman
>> <brianfundakowskifeldman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > You know, now you're making me wonder if the edge behavior shouldn't
>> > also be
>> > configurable per-spigen/per-transfer. Chip select polarity seems far too
>> > dangerous to expose that way. The only SPI device I have lying around so
>> > far
>> > is an MCP3008.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 8:17 PM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've worked on one set of flash that had simple commands for
>> >> identifying
>> >> it, which were clocked at one rate (slow, to be compatible with older
>> >> members of the family), and other commands that were data transfer that
>> >> were
>> >> clocked faster to match the data coming from internal pipelines in the
>> >> part.
>> >> I don't know how common this arrangement is in the wild, though.
>> >>
>> >> And all of this is from memory of something I worked on maybe 10 years
>> >> ago
>> >> now, so I'm not sure how relevant it is today. I do know NAND flash
>> >> chips
>> >> have similar behavior, but those don't have a SPI bus.
>> >>
>> >> Warner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Brian Fundakowski Feldman
>> >> <brianfundakowskifeldman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> That's something I want feedback on: are there scenarios where you
>> >>> want
>> >>> to
>> >>> regularly vary the clock to a specific SPI device, as opposed to
>> >>> varying
>> >>> it
>> >>> among several? It would be easy to add to the transfer ioctls if you
>> >>> have
>> >>> a
>> >>> use case (for example, manual chip select control with more devices
>> >>> than
>> >>> chip select pins in your low-level SPI implementation.)  Certainly
>> >>> from a
>> >>> runtime cost perspective it would be no burden.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for taking a look!
>> >>> --
>> >>> green
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 5:55 PM Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Hi!
>> >>> >
>> >>> > This looks cool! Is there any reason why the clock isn't per
>> >>> > transaction?
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > -a
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 22 August 2015 at 11:23, Brian Fundakowski Feldman
>> >>> > <brianfundakowskifeldman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > > I've added a couple more features:
>> >>> > >  * clock adjustment via ioctl, independent per spigenN device
>> >>> > >  * mmap(2) support for very low latency
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Brian Fundakowski Feldman <
>> >>> > > brianfundakowskifeldman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:04 PM Tom Jones <jones@sdf.org> wrote:
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 10:00:26AM -0400, Brian Fundakowski
>> >>> > >>> Feldman
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> > >>> > I'm woefully out-of-practice with my kernel hackery (but still
>> >>> > >>> > pretty
>> >>> > >>> > proficient in jiggery-pokery) so I would like to get comments
>> >>> > >>> > on
>> >>> > >>> > a
>> >>> > >>> little
>> >>> > >>> > driver I just made for interfacing arbitrarily in userland
>> >>> > >>> > with
>> >>> > >>> > SPI
>> >>> > >>> > components.  The only thing I'm exposing is a /dev/spigenN
>> >>> > >>> > node
>> >>> > >>> > with
>> >>> > a
>> >>> > >>> > single transfer ioctl and I put together a test circuit and
>> >>> > >>> > program
>> >>> > >>> with an
>> >>> > >>> > MCP3008 10-bit ADC IC to validate that it basically works,
>> >>> > >>> > other
>> >>> > >>> > than
>> >>> > >>> the
>> >>> > >>> > limitation that the transfers must be octet-multiply-sized,
>> >>> > >>> > but I
>> >>> > >>> haven't
>> >>> > >>> > looked at the SoC's (I'm using a Raspberry Pi 2) data sheet to
>> >>> > >>> > tell
>> >>> > >>> whether
>> >>> > >>> > that's just a limit on the spibus(4) interface or the Broadcom
>> >>> > >>> > SPI
>> >>> > >>> driver
>> >>> > >>> > or the Broadcom SoC itself.
>> >>> > >>> >
>> >>> > >>> > I hit one snag in development where I simply called the ioctl
>> >>> > >>> > wrong
>> >>> > and
>> >>> > >>> > found copyin(9) to page fault HARD if given a bogus user
>> >>> > >>> > address
>> >>> > >>> > to
>> >>> > copy
>> >>> > >>> > from, and panic the kernel.  I can post up the test program if
>> >>> > >>> > anyone
>> >>> > >>> wants
>> >>> > >>> > but it's very trivial: I just align the start bit and the
>> >>> > >>> > command
>> >>> > data
>> >>> > >>> into
>> >>> > >>> > the least significant bits of the first octet, shift it up two
>> >>> > >>> positions so
>> >>> > >>> > the NULs get clocked out as part of the command field, and
>> >>> > >>> > provide
>> >>> > two
>> >>> > >>> > octets for the data field to retrieve back the 10-bit digital
>> >>> > >>> > value.
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> Oh, cool.
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> I did the same earlier this year, have you seen[1]?.
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> The FreeBSD i2c api is the same/very similar the linux
>> >>> > >>> one[2][3].
>> >>> > >>> Have
>> >>> > you
>> >>> > >>> considered adding some of the ioctls[3] or the data structures
>> >>> > >>> to
>> >>> > >>> make
>> >>> > it
>> >>> > >>> easier to port code?
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> [1]:
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-embedded/2015-April/002466.html
>> >>> > >>> [2]: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/i2c/dev-interface
>> >>> > >>> [3]:
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=iic&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+10.2-RELEASE&arch=default&format=html
>> >>> > >>> [4]: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/spi/spidev
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> I've iterated a bit on this to try to make some more sensible
>> >>> > >> API,
>> >>> > >> behaving reasonably about being able to set the SPI clock speed.
>> >>> > >> I'm
>> >>> > going
>> >>> > >> to implement an mmap handler so I can have my low-latency
>> >>> > >> operation
>> >>> > mode,
>> >>> > >> as well.  I don't like the Linux APIs one bit because it's just
>> >>> > >> not
>> >>> > safe to
>> >>> > >> allow all those configuration changes on a per-transfer basis...
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> Moving this to -embedded because it's more apt than -hackers.
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >
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