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Date:      Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:32:50 -0500
From:      Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>
To:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreshPorts fraud
Message-ID:  <3FD0A522.2000502@potentialtech.com>
In-Reply-To: <xzp8ylrjnez.fsf@dwp.des.no>
References:  <3FCF887E.7562.4A7C8BE3@localhost> <20031205150152.GM63350@submonkey.net> <xzp8ylrjnez.fsf@dwp.des.no>

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Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Ceri Davies <setantae@submonkey.net> writes:
> 
>>To their credit, absolutely nothing, as far as I'm concerned.  This is
>>an outright abuse, and if I were you I'd lodge a complaint with ICANN to
>>get the domain transferred to you.
> 
> The side has been taken down, so it's hard to prove any wrong-doing.
> If the perps decide to fight the charges, it'll be Dan's word against
> theirs.  The fact that Dan has had freshports.org for two and a half
> years while freshports.net was only registered two weeks ago would
> certainly help Dan's case, but I'm not sure that it would be enough.
> The complaints also cost money.
> 
> A fraud suit backed with evidence from from PayPal might work, except
> the perps are in Sweden, so the cost of litigation would be truly
> horrendous, and it might turn out to be nearly impossible for a
> Swedish court to subpoena evidence from PayPal.
> 
> The only practical recourse is for people who have actually donated
> money to file a complaint with PayPal.  From what I've heard, PayPal
> generally (and summarily) sides with the donor in cases like this.
> That policy can spell real trouble for the recipient if the complaints
> are false, but in this case it works to Dan's advantage.  Donors would
> get their money back, and the perps would lose their PayPal account,
> but not much else would happen.

Almost makes me wish I had donated money, so I could help out by
complaining!

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com



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