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Date:      Fri, 14 Jul 2000 11:47:28 +1000 (EST)
From:      Andrew Kenneth Milton <akm@mail.theinternet.com.au>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        Jan Koum <jkb@ethereal.net>, security@FreeBSD.ORG, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Displacement of Blame[tm]
Message-ID:  <200007140147.LAA73346@mail.theinternet.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000713191253.04ba03e0@localhost> from Brett Glass at "Jul 13, 2000 07:15:20 pm"

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+----[ Brett Glass ]---------------------------------------------
| At 05:16 PM 7/13/2000, Jan Koum wrote:
| 
| >i have to agree with jkh here. my mail box is not shrinking and if people
| >are dumb enough not to make a distinction between freebsd kernel and
| >xjigsaw port, nothing we do will help them. not even sending them a 6 pack
| >of clue with fedex overnight express delivery.
| 
| Let's be fair. They're not idiots, and I think we can help them (and ourselves)
| at least a little. At the very least, we should make sure that people who
| try to count bugs automatically by monitoring Bugtraq posts do not attribute
| bugs in ported software to FreeBSD.

If they're not idiots then the distinction between FreeBSD and third party
products should be obvious. I see little value in simply counting bugs, for
countings sake. There are other people more qualified to do that, because
they can make the distinction that your 'clients' obviously cannot, or
cannot be bothered to.

If on the other hand they are monitoring the bugs because they want to do
something about them, they should actually be reading the content.

Perhaps they should take the time to understand what they're monitoring,
or you should take the time to explain it to them, since you subscribed them
to BugTRAQ in the first place.

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