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Date:      Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:52:59 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Jeffrey Bouquet" <jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com>
To:        "Benjamin Kaduk" <kaduk@mit.edu>
Cc:        "current" <current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ISO image: where is the CLANG compiler?
Message-ID:  <E1cV7L1-0001Cr-3p@rmm6prod02.runbox.com>
In-Reply-To: <20170121224756.GT8460@kduck.kaduk.org>

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On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:47:56 -0600, Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 07:38:30PM +0000, Glen Barber wrote:
> > 
> > Random thought:
> > 
> > Brought up out-of-band, can you try this from a memstick.img and your
> > already-built userland/kernel to do what you had originally tried to
> > install the system?
> > 
> >  # make -C /usr/src WITHOUT_SYSTEM_COMPILER=1 DESTDIR=/wherever installworld
> > 
> > I think this is why cc(1)/clang(1) is not being used from /usr/obj, and
> > you don't have a compiler to compile the compiler.
> 
> Sorry for jumping in late, and thanks for bringing this up -- I was surprised
> that we had gone so long without someone making the claim that a compiler
> should not be necessary for installworld/installkernel (as was my understanding).
> If indeed a compiler is necessary for those (perhaps only under certain
> circumstances such as those experienced by Oliver) it would be good to understand
> why.
> 
> -Ben
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That may be a reason to develop the not-specific (sorry...) idea that installworld
should install to a small duplicate of  where it Does, and  complete, before the Actual
installworld so that if the latter cannot complete, a small rescue shell with rsync
embedded or an equivalent can copy the bare-minimum set of files over the 
mixture of new and old... which I have had to several times do more or less
piecemeal, and more often than not sufficed to bring the system back whole. 

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