Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:39:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Feldman <green@unixhelp.org> To: Gary Palmer <gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: Paul Richards <paul@originative.co.uk>, "'Philippe Regnauld'" <regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk>, Chuck Robey <chuckr@Glue.umd.edu>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Threads across processors Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.02.9808251338590.2803-100000@zone.syracuse.net> In-Reply-To: <8887.904055105@gjp.erols.com>
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The SPARC port's not dead? -Brian Feldman green@unixhelp.org On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Gary Palmer wrote: > Paul Richards wrote in message ID > <E40CBF0361C7D111914000C0F0303D1086D3@OCTOPUS>: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Philippe Regnauld [mailto:regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk] > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 11:02 AM > > > To: Paul Richards > > > Cc: 'Gary Palmer'; Chuck Robey; freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: Re: Threads across processors > > > > > > > > > Paul Richards writes: > > > > Hotmail are apparently dropping FreeBSD in favour of > > > Solaris because of > > > > thread support as well :-( > > > > > > Hotmail is Micro$loth now. If they'd had half a brain, they'd > > > do like Yahoo and sponsor development of the ugly work... > > > > > > > Maybe someone should suggest it to them. It must be costing a fair bit > > to switch to Solaris. They must have some independence from Microsoft to > > be able to go for Solaris, although it is due to the fact that NT fell > > on it's face when faced with the task :-) > > I'll be brutally honest at this point. > > There are probably two reasons to go with UltraSPARCs and Solaris. > > 1) Solaris is heavily threaded, and some of the designs in the kernel are > actually pretty neat. > > 2) The PC hardware platform *BLOWS*. Looking at work at the sort of hardware > we can deploy with a UE250 or UE450 makes every PC I've ever seen pale in > comparison. This is not counting the E4000 series machines we have which, > when combined with Solaris, are pretty nice. e.g. in 2.7, you can hot > remove and insert any board in a E4000, including processor and I/O boards. > And if we have any problems, our support contract will get us a spare part, > and an engineer to install it for us, within 2 hours. > > Now, I still hate solaris. But its pretty difficult to persuade someone to > stay with a PC platform which he has to support himself/herself, when (now) > the company I work for has the money to let them go out and buy UltraSPARC > equipment and push all that responsibility onto SMI. > > So I think that it is important that effort be dedicated to the UltraSPARC > port and also the Alpha port (which I am helping with when I can). Or perhaps > some other comodity hardware that is not as braindamaged as the PC. > > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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