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Date:      Thu, 22 Aug 2002 17:24:23 -0400 (EDT)
From:      John Bleichert <syborg@stny.rr.com>
To:        David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
Cc:        Benjamin Krueger <benjamin@seattleFenix.net>, Josh Paetzel <friar_josh@webwarrior.net>, Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>, <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD on a Mac
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208221722590.17860-100000@janeway.vonbek.dhs.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020822205146.GA36456@grumpy.dyndns.org>

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On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, David Kelly wrote:

> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:51:46 -0500
> From: David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
> To: Benjamin Krueger <benjamin@seattleFenix.net>
> Cc: Josh Paetzel <friar_josh@webwarrior.net>,
>      Kevin Stevens <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>,
>      John Bleichert <syborg@stny.rr.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on a Mac
> 
> [moved to -chat]
> 
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 01:08:41PM -0700, Benjamin Krueger wrote:
> > 
> > Apple does not own PowerPC, it belongs to IBM.
> 
> Is a joint project owned at least in part by Apple, IBM, and Motorola.
> The CPU is derived from IBM's RS-6000 RISC. The MMU is from Motorola's
> 88000 RISC. Apple brought the two others together and committed to
> volume purchases, rendering the project into an economic feasibility.
> 
> > IBM currently uses it in many of their server offerings. Apple's
> > current line of PowerPC cpus are an implementation manufactured by
> > Motorola. Motorola will sell them to folks other than Apple. In fact,
> > Motorola has an entire line of PowerPC products for embedded and other
> > systems.
> 
> Have an Apple G4 sitting right here but not interested enough to verify
> who manufactured it to remove its heatsink. Was my understanding IBM's
> big bally-hoo'ed copper chip process was being used and that most if not
> all G4's were manufactured by IBM.
> 
> Motorola's embedded PPC CPU family is called "ColdFire".
> 

<OT>
IBM made the chips for the first couple revs, and Motorola has been doing 
the fab work for the last 2 years. Word is that, due to Motorola's yield 
problems, that fab work may go back to IBM.
</OT>

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