Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 13:20:19 -0700 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> Cc: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@freebsd.org>, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "<dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>" <dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 2a50a9de8340 - main - terminfo: add terminfo database Message-ID: <CANCZdfp82HJ71zd9LdbYJMFbujQy5_L7KQCJhbj1CtNXGWZPPA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20210226193542.GA89099@FreeBSD.org> References: <202102261420.11QEKJoX006569@slippy.cwsent.com> <202102261730.11QHUh8n031156@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <20210226173629.2sc6wlaasxjep3le@aniel.nours.eu> <d0c4f575-9aba-4b04-a0f4-17e1c0fbedfb@FreeBSD.org> <20210226193542.GA89099@FreeBSD.org>
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On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 12:35 PM Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 07:23:48PM +0000, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > ...
> > Let me rephrase it. I won't patch ncurses terminfo as that would make
> > the maintenance a huge pain.
>
> How disabling one single mis-feature makes it huge pain to maintain?
> How big is the patch? We had been doing these things for contributed
> software since our dawn times, so our users won't have to circumvent
> upstream's stupidity. When did this change?
>
There's not a clear and compelling agreement that this is stupid. Some love
it, some hate it, some conditionally do both.
As has been stated, the workaround generally is a one liner:
export TERMCAP="${TERM}:ti@:te@:tc=${TERM}"
in your init file. Other programs have more selective workaround should you
desire to disable this on some, but not all, programs.
This is quite a bit less work than whatever effort it would be to hack
something together, and then keep re-hacking it each time we update.
> > The solution is to document how to workaround for the people who dislike
> > the new behaviour.
>
> This is just wrong on so many different levels; I honestly don't understand
> what the fuck is going on here. :-(
>
This is crossing the line from advocacy and discussion into hostility and
attack. Please avoid that in the future.
Warner
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