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Date:      Sat, 12 Jul 1997 14:27:58 +1000 (EST)
From:      "Daniel O'Callaghan" <danny@panda.hilink.com.au>
To:        Tony Li <tli@jnx.com>
Cc:        Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>, rls@mail.id.net, spork@super-g.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: T1 upgrade options?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.970712142249.869P-100000@panda.hilink.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970711171713.00e01550@etinc.com>

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On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, dennis wrote:

> At 11:56 AM 7/11/97 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> >Tony Li wrote:
> >> 
> >>    Yes, they are small, but even a 4MB card is plent to run routing
> services
> >>    off of.  There are several FreeBSD distributions out there that are
> >>    "router floppies", where you fit everything you need onto a 1.4MB disk
> >>    (except for gated, which is our problem).  So you'd be in heaven with
> 4MB.
> >> 
> >> Well, you're better than I am.  ;-) In trying to get kernel, gated, basic
> >> Unix utilities, and remote access utilties (what, you wanna WALK to your
> >> router?) into a single place, I came up a wee bit bigger.
> >> 
> >> In any case the flash disks run up to 190MB or so.  Enough for a
> >> distribution, but not enough to have things vanilla.
> >> 
> >> Tony
> >
> >Use 'crunch' like the boot floppy does.
> >you can fit almost the whole of /bin, and /usr/bin in 4MB using that.

What I've been toying with recently is the idea of a kernel with a MFS 
running in 16 or 24 MB RAM, booted from a floppy.  You can get a boot 
floppy to configure the ethernet and establish basic routes, and then use 
fetch to retrieve things like gated and sshd into the MFS. A machine 
configured as 8 MB RAM, 8 MB swap and 8 MB MFS should have enough 
utilities to run a router which can be remotely administered. 

/*  Daniel O'Callaghan                                                     */
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