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Date:      Sat, 10 Apr 2021 17:39:11 +0200
From:      Valery Seys <valery@vslash.com>
To:        freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Arm64 Tier 1 FreeBSD 13 Phones
Message-ID:  <dff75fe7-06d1-5114-8c0c-d83faaebbd7e@vslash.com>
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On 10/04/2021 15:02, Ian Lepore wrote:
> On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 04:07 -0400, grarpamp wrote:
>> FreeBSD Phones...
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5
>> NXP i.MX 8M Quad core Cortex-A53, 64bit ARM
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PinePhone
>> Allwinner A64 ARM Quad core Cortex-A53
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c32-QOrI4cw
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCKMxzz9cjs
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVJo9faE1fM
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV0RnWorPpQ
>>
>> Happy hacking :)
>>
> 
> Dream on.  FreeBSD lacks the power-management infrastructure to run on
> battery-operated devices.  The amount of work required to get there
> from here is almost unimaginable, and there are no big companies
> funding that kind of work (which is how linux got all that code).
> 
> -- Ian
> 
> 
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... and even on Linux, the power management is very unstable on the PinePhone ; 
I tried it through 3 distros (Mobian, KDE Manjaro, GloDroid), and results are 
far to provide something usable for a day to day usage.
Some investigations I made with Mobian on a new Pinephone having hardware issue:
https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=13311&pid=91835#pid91835

IMHO, the Pinephone is something like a prototype, low quality control (and low 
price too), but not really something reliable.

But yes, FreeBSD on a smartphone would be so great !




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