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Date:      Sat, 8 Dec 2001 17:52:31 -0700
From:      Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.freebsd.org>, Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>, "Louis A. Mamakos" <louie@TransSys.COM>, Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>, Kirk McKusick <mckusick@beastie.mckusick.com>, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Proposed auto-sizing patch to sysinstall (was Re: Using a larger block size on large filesystems) 
Message-ID:  <15378.46543.229258.473566@caddis.yogotech.com>
In-Reply-To: <200112082211.fB8MBGm18685@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <49294.1007846108@winston.freebsd.org> <200112082211.fB8MBGm18685@apollo.backplane.com>

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>     Not only that, but blowing-out /var/tmp is relatively easy to do even
>     on a single user system.

I've *NEVER* done, and the only thing that's blown out /var on any
machine I've ever used is /var/log.  That's about 8+ years of experience
and 200-300 different boxes.

>     The last thing you want to see is a full
>     /var/tmp causing your mail system to throw up rocks because it's on
>     the same partition as /var.   There is absolutely no sane reason to
>     combine /var and /var/tmp together.

Obviously, I disagree.  Therefore, I aree with Jordan and suggest that
your 'bias' is based on your experience, which may differ from others.

>     The same thing goes for /home, though in /home's case the reasoning
>     is somewhat more ephermal.

One single-user systems, I create /usr/home, and symlink /home to it.
However, that's a personal preference I don't suggest is valid for
everyone.  One larger systems, I usually allocate an entire disk to
/home, but again, that's a personal preference, and one that I don't
think should be hard-coded as a good default.  (Especially since
sysinstall's main goal is to get a minimal system installed on the
system.)

I think many of the changes you've done are very good.  I just disagree
that the default partitioning scheme of '/','/var', and '/usr' isn't
adequate for a 'base' configuration.

As David and others have pointed out, they like monstrous '/' partitions
which I shudder to think about when crashes occur.

In short, I think we should stick with the current 3 partition base
setup for 'automatic', and let others which *really* need more than
automatic to create their own, or otherwise extend it to have different
classes of 'auto' configurations as Jordan suggested.

(Back to my hole.....)




Nate

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