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Date:      Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:09:59 +1030
From:      "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
To:        Mark Powell <M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Removing all ZFS support from boot process
Message-ID:  <D658A742-1C1C-4C01-874E-75ACBBED64A0@gsoft.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1102111025470.23895@rust.salford.ac.uk>
References:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1102101447240.69722@rust.salford.ac.uk> <C2BE4608-A0A6-493D-A767-37F91ECED4AE@gsoft.com.au> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1102111025470.23895@rust.salford.ac.uk>

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On 11/02/2011, at 21:03, Mark Powell wrote:
>> Can you take a picture of where it hangs? (you will have to host it somewhere though, as the list will reject non text attachments).
> 
> Here you go:
> 
> http://galatea.salford.ac.uk/aix502/11022011448.jpg
> http://galatea.salford.ac.uk/aix502/11022011449.jpg
> 
>  The spinning char can seemingly be in any position when it crashes. It took 5 attempts that time to get to the beastie menu.

OK.. unfortunately not really much help except confirming that it is in the BIOS/loader somewhere..
>> Is there an update for the BIOS? Does this happen on other hardware?
> 
>  I suspected BIOS, that's why I was going to get a new motherboard. I've always had problems getting gptzfsboot working on this hardware and there are no more BIOS updates now. That's why I have ufs root, as it only worked intermitantly.
>  Then I wondered what the hell was going on in the loader that took >60s and seemingly touched every drive. I assumed it was FBSD that was tasting all the drives.

I believe the loader does look at the drives the BIOS presents to it, certainly at the very least it tries to find something to boot off :)

However, even if it is looking on every disk for partitions it should only take a second or so (unless one of the drives is broken I suppose).

I have seen BIOSen not boot reliably when external RAID cards are present.. Generally their quality is quite variable :(

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