Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 20:31:46 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> To: Benjamin Kaduk <bjkfbsd@gmail.com> Cc: "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Rui Paulo <rpaulo@felyko.com>, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: svn commit: r262282 - in head: contrib/dma contrib/dma/debian contrib/dma/debian/migrate contrib/dma/debian/source contrib/dma/test etc/mtree libexec libexec/dma share/mk tools/build/mk tools/build... Message-ID: <20140221193145.GN1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <CAJ5_RoD0byF4QHRaW1Ab5zOnQ2Z_ug3D=GGMO5QH8q%2BUe_6cHw@mail.gmail.com> References: <201402210726.s1L7QnBP007144@svn.freebsd.org> <20140221160144.GA61609@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20140221163217.GJ1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <CDC410B6-6B76-4DA1-8630-C461B368E046@felyko.com> <20140221173841.GK1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <CAJ5_RoD0byF4QHRaW1Ab5zOnQ2Z_ug3D=GGMO5QH8q%2BUe_6cHw@mail.gmail.com>
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--l3ej7W/Jb2pB3qL2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:56:29PM -0500, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>wr= ote: >=20 > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 09:07:23AM -0800, Rui Paulo wrote: > > > On 21 Feb 2014, at 08:32, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 08:01:44AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > >> Why? There is /usr/ports/mail/dma. > > > >> > > > > Because there are lot of case where you do not need a full smtp ser= ver > > in base but just > > > > be able to deliver locally and/or relay mails outside, dma is very > > good for that > > > > purpose. > > > > > > I agree with this notion and to be honest the next step should be to > > remove sendmail from the base system. > > > > > I'm strongly support that idea. > > >=20 > Baptiste, >=20 > I appreciate that you've put a lot of thought and effort into this work, > and indeed you put in Herculean amounts of effort for the project for whi= ch > we should all be grateful. > In particular, the addition of dma is listed as having been discussed with > three other committers, and represents the potential for a very significa= nt > change in the base system that we present to our users. As such, I think > that it would be beneficial for all parties, if a summary of the reasoning > behind this decision could be presented to us. A quick, single-sentence > reply does *not* serve this purpose; in fact it is actively working again= st > this purpose, by seeming to brush off the concerns of others without prop= er > consideration. >=20 > I understand that your time is precious. So is the time of everyone on > this list, and a small investment in a well-written description of the > reasoning for this change should be able to prevent a long email thread > that would waste a lot of many peoples' time. It would probably be best > for this description to go to -current, instead of the svn commit lists. >=20 You are right I ll prepare a mail describing all that to current@. regards, Bapt --l3ej7W/Jb2pB3qL2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlMHqaEACgkQ8kTtMUmk6Eyr+wCgnbEQOJwY6cgvQEz4q+8i9ha6 VFEAn1BKbu9i0KohF7XYzk5a2RduJeIy =Jx7c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l3ej7W/Jb2pB3qL2--
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