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Date:      Sat, 1 Dec 2001 17:50:47 -0800
From:      Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
To:        Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
Cc:        Greg Lewis <glewis@eyesbeyond.com>, Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us>, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Plugin Status
Message-ID:  <20011201175047.A18259@gnuppy>
In-Reply-To: <20011201163642.A12922@gnuppy>
References:  <15367.52862.957201.411578@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <20011130141837.A6065@gnuppy> <20011202014615.A36600@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <20011201163642.A12922@gnuppy>

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On Sat, Dec 01, 2001 at 04:36:42PM -0800, Bill Huey wrote:
> It's something that can't be taking from me regardless of various doubts
> they might have and now I can tell them to pretty much "shove it" with
> confidence. ;-)

I have to reply to this portion of the post again to clarify. The "they"
component are the folks that talked down to me because they were too
ego driven to recogize competent developers outside of their little
cliche.

The BSD/OS group has *never* treated me with this kind of disrespect in
any way, but instead:

1) Payed me well.
2) Treated me like family
3) Understood where I was coming from (a bit nervous) and professionally
	managed me in that context.
4) Gave me my first real professional break in my life. That's is very
	important to me personally since stupid folks in this of the
	State would say inane crap like "Well, we can't give you a
	position because I'm intimidated by you and need to make by
	excuse by saying that 'You don't have enought C++ programming
	experience for the job'".
5) Feed me, drove me around in Minnesota. Payed for BSDCon which
	ended up being a great trip to meet those folks, joke around and
	check out Monterey California.
6) Allowed me to do something as cool as letting my work be integrated
	into the FreeBSD Java project, therefore helping both groups
	achieve both goals and establishing myself in both group
	simultaneously.
7) And other things that mature folks respect and find important without
	excessive and ridiculous arguing against it.

</rant defered until needed>

;-)

bill


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