Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:49:27 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov <ru@freebsd.org> To: "David O'Brien" <obrien@freebsd.org> Cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/i386/net htonl.S ntohl.S Message-ID: <20041018194927.GG89681@ip.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <20041018184234.GC10529@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200410181719.i9IHJa9l097436@repoman.freebsd.org> <20041018173516.GB89681@ip.net.ua> <20041018174511.GA6079@dragon.nuxi.com> <20041018183118.GA80703@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20041018184234.GC10529@dragon.nuxi.com>
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--E69HUUNAyIJqGpVn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 11:42:34AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 08:31:18PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 10:45:11AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > Yes. You missed the discussion in freebsd-current on this? > .. > > I have certainly not seen any message stating that on -current. >=20 > To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org > Subject: [PATCH] optimizing X now that we don't support i386 CPU's on 6-= CURRENT > Message-ID: <20041016174925.GA96809@dragon.nuxi.com> >=20 Well, it's less than three days old, and you made a major decision with this commit that the world no longer supports i386 by default. I wish you discussed in on arch@ first. I re-read this thread, and it seems that you think that since nobody reported a success running on i386 then it's time to kill I386 support in our world by default? I can also read a message from John Nielsen in this same thread saying he was able to install 5.2 on 386DX, so perhaps you owe a dinner to Xin next time you're in Bejing. ;) > > I know that the GENERIC kernel does not work on a i386, so that you > > need a custom-built kernel to install on a real i386. > > I also know that support for FPU-less systems has been dropped, which > > means that most 386-based systems (those without an '387) (as well as > > systems with a 486sx w/o a 487sx) will not run RELENG_5 or -CURRENT. > >=20 > > Neither of these means that a real 80386+80387 is unsupported, just > > that you need to build a new kernel first. >=20 > I see nothing wrong with having to build a new userland before it will > run on I386 since we already have to do that with the kernel. >=20 Having libc optimized for >386 by default is good (IMO), but what you've committed can't be used easily to compile for i386. Perhaps you will adopt/apply my suggestions, and then we will fix the issue for i386 users. I agree with Xin that this deserves a HEADS UP since default world will no longer support i386 hardware. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --E69HUUNAyIJqGpVn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBdB5HqRfpzJluFF4RAr3YAJ9Hy/qiTxGxswm9FJWZ/G3HpDJF0gCbB1qX P+QKSEaLhsdJC/MOur6ILpY= =v3hD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E69HUUNAyIJqGpVn--
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