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Date:      Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:33:06 +0200
From:      "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Removing CVS from base 
Message-ID:  <201208241433.q7OEX63K003598@fire.js.berklix.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message "Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:06:18 EDT." <201208231606.18346.jhb@freebsd.org> 

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John Baldwin wrote:
> On Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:41:03 pm Peter Wemm wrote:
> > * Don't expect to see any 10.0-alpha/beta/rc/release/stable to *ever*
> > make it to an official cvs tree.  It's probably time to move a
> > freebsd-ified cvs from head to ports.
> 
> I think this is a bit premature.  Just because we are moving away from
> using CVS as FreeBSD's scm doesn't mean CVS isn't a useful
> general-purpose tool still.  For smaller repositories that don't need
> fancier things like branches, CVS is quite useful and far lighter weight.
> 
> I could see moving csup out to ports, but not necessarily CVS.

Agreed.  Principle of least suprise.
CVS seems a standard Unix tool & source archive format,
something people from other Unix distribs might expect by default.
	 ( Like SCCs once was, between the mists of PWB, forward & beyond
	   a BSD-4.2&3 Symmetric 375 (ex Bill Jollitz of 386BSD)

For those of us that have [had to] work with lots of different Unix
flavours, it's a PITA having gratuitious extra UNIX variant
weirdnesses; (This missing here, that missing or renamed there etc).
No need to make standard FreeBSD base awkward for people
visiting from other Unixes.

To avoid making 7.4M of src/contrib/cvs We have WITHOUT_CVS in man src.conf.

Cheers,
Julian
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