Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 13:49:02 +0100 From: Daniel Ebdrup <debdrup@gmail.com> To: Oleksandr Tymoshenko <gonzo@bluezbox.com> Cc: Michael Gmelin <grembo@freebsd.org>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org>, Stefan Blachmann <sblachmann@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, Vladimir Kondratyev <vladimir@kondratyev.su> Subject: Re: What is evdev and autoloading? Message-ID: <77542747-D818-4A61-9D40-934A71D4EAEE@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20190219081511.GA78044@bluezbox.com> References: <CANCZdfrEWX9jJVHUkFNijGpk9ii1H9PsUHtq=nD4M%2BnZacpCrQ@mail.gmail.com> <201902181650.x1IGoRsZ006131@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <20190218225407.GA7187@lonesome.com> <21E2EBA6-F4EE-4608-B2EA-AF731F892583@freebsd.org> <20190219081511.GA78044@bluezbox.com>
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> On 19 Feb 2019, at 09.15, Oleksandr Tymoshenko <gonzo@bluezbox.com> wrote: > > Michael Gmelin (grembo@freebsd.org) wrote: >> >> >>>> On 18. Feb 2019, at 23:54, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 08:50:27AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >>>> I think one serious problem here is the summary dismissal of things >>>> simply on the "5 year old" basis. >>> >>> IIUC the graphics changes are being forced upon FreeBSD by external >>> projects (mainly Linux-based) that are making huge architectural changes >>> that rely more and more on features from newer hardware. >>> >>> If our upstreams aren't willing to do the work to keep from violating >>> POLA on older hardware, IMHO it's an awful lot to ask of our already >>> thinly stretched graphics volunteers to provide it in their stead. >>> >>> w/rt graphics, we are at far more danger of being left further and >>> further behind on modern hardware than we are at risk of losing users >>> on older hardware here. >>> >>> Again all IMHO. >>> >>> disclaimer: I don't use any fancy graphics stuff, so (as the old folks >>> say around here) >> >> I’m very happy (and grateful) that 2018 was the first year in over a decade I was able to run FreeBSD on a state of the art laptop with all the features that are essential to me working - which included decent touchpad support provided through evdev+libinput. > > I want to second this. evdev + libinput was the only option out of > several that provided smooth multitouch experience for Xorg on my 2018 > laptop I really appreciate all the efforts to make it work both on > kernel and ports side. > > -- > gonzo > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" If I may throw my 0,02€, getting a newer graphics stack also gives me (and others) the option to combine many machine functions into one; for example, I can use a single machine as all the usual things like: router+firewall(ipfw), fileserver which can satuate 1Gbps LAN and WAN with NFSv4 and/or SMB, and many other things (those aren’t _that_ new) What is new is that we can now use it as a media center for efficient hardware accelerated playback of h264 and h265, as well as on-the-fly transcoding to stream to mobile devices via libva or vdpau, qsv or similar.
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