Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:26:29 +0900 From: Motoyuki Konno <motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp> To: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Cc: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>, "Alexey M. Zelkin" <phantom@cris.net>, doc@freebsd.org, doc-jp@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? Message-ID: <199908190226.LAA05267@rei.snipe.rim.or.jp> References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <199908182104.BAA04851@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19990819001734.A83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <vqc9078vbkf.fsf@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>
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Hi,
asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) wrote:
> * If the sysadmin wants this as local policy they can enforce it with a
> * symlink (possibly as a selectable option in doc/Makefile, to make the
> * link automatically).
>
> The issue is not about local policy, Nik. There are literally dozens
> of Japanese FreeBSD books and magazines out there that includes a
> variation of the first line up there as the command to read the
> handbook. (I don't know about other countries but I suspect the
> situation is the same.)
>
> When people buy a book, install the latest system and find out it
> doesn't work, they get pissed. And we (on the Japanese mailing lists)
> are the ones that hear about it.
I think this is the most important. Any directory change confused
many FreeBSD users, so WE HAVE TO VERY VERY CAREFUL TO CHANGE
THE DEFAULT INSTALL DIRECTORY.
We agreed Nik's CVS-repository-move idea because he says the location
of documents never move. If he said he want to move the directory
at the moment (before the CVS-repository-move were done), we never
agree his idea.
When the Japanese manual directory moved from
/usr/(share|local|X11R6)/man/ja_JP.EUC to /usr/..../ja, many many
Japanese users are confused with this problem. For another example,
the system configuration file were /etc/sysconfig at first, then
/etc/rc.conf, now /etc/default/rc.conf for the default values and
/etc/rc.conf for the user-defined values. This change also confused
many FreeBSD users...
Of course, these changes were written in Release Notes, but FreeBSD
beginners think their FreeBSD books are correct.
# As the Release Notes exists in the electrical media such as Web,
# Beginners feels more difficulty to refer the Release Notes.
I think there were enough reason to change the location of system
configuration file. But what about the doc directory change?
Is there enough reason to change? I think not. I have never heard
the opinion like "the location of FreeBSD handbook is bad. please
move it" from FreeBSD users. I have heard many suggestion like
"the location change confused me much. please do not move again."
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