Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 21:27:28 -0700 From: Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@freebsd.org> To: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> Cc: Matthew Macy <mat.macy@gmail.com>, Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>, Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org>, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>, Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net>, Stefan Esser <se@freebsd.org>, "rgrimes@freebsd.org" <rgrimes@freebsd.org>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, Sean Bruno <sbruno@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Deorbiting i386 Message-ID: <CAH7qZfsbGheNqnwNmkP5jYiE=FXzc65yZSBoX_mM%2BuNce9rhyQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20180525003949.GA710@lonesome.com> References: <201805232218.w4NMIxMA067892@slippy.cwsent.com> <e4311612-d1c4-b118-187b-7086945a312d@FreeBSD.org> <18a87d6d-14af-ef9d-80ff-403039e36692@cs.duke.edu> <CAPrugNomum%2BDO7M3GET3y0DrFse7jy1PmSUwnXGU5Sm6DXRrVg@mail.gmail.com> <20180525003949.GA710@lonesome.com>
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The idea looks very inmature and short-sighted to me. i386 is here to stay not as a server/desktop platform but as an embedded/low power/low cost platform for at least 5-10 years to come. There are plenty of applications in the world that don't need > 3gb of memory space and have no use for extra bits (and extra silicon) to function. By quitting this space early FreeBSD is going to make itself unavailable for those applications. We are striving to support mips and the likes, with just tens of megabytes of memory and marginal at best adoption. Yet seriously discussing ditching out solid platform that has been our workforce for 20+ years?? -Max On Thu, May 24, 2018, 5:40 PM Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote: > On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:22:37PM -0700, Matthew Macy wrote: > > All you need to know about sparc64 vitality is that HEAD didn't boot > > for 3 months until last week. > > All you need to know is that -11 works fine, but, after so much drama > from various places, I haven't even bothered upgrading any of my machines > to 12. > > mcl > >
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