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Date:      Wed, 19 Jul 1995 17:15:42 +0930 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        spaz@u.washington.edu (John Utz)
Cc:        elh_fbsd@spnet.com, hackers@freebsd.org, elh@spnet.com
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Killer Apps (was Re: TCL vs...)
Message-ID:  <199507190745.RAA08032@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.3.91j.950718221931.27578A@saul1.u.washington.edu> from "John Utz" at Jul 18, 95 11:52:29 pm

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John Utz stands accused of saying:
> 	My personal favorite is the chipmunk tools. They completely 
> rock!!! It is a collection of digital and analog drag and drop graphical 
> design and simulation tools. I f*n love it! I predesign my circuits for 
> school and then print the schematic out via ghostcript.

I've actually been quietly waiting for the next annual round of patches
for the Chipmunk suite so that I could learn to roll a port 8)

I use these tools for digital simulations; the drag-n-drop stuff, as well
as the programming language for the modules is great; I can code up PLDs
& test them logically without spending hours crouched over the analyser.

(If you're into masochism, have a look at the source; it's derived 
from machine-translated Pascal. Ugh.)

What I'd kill for is an integrated schematic-PCB package, but they're
no fun to write, and even less fun to support, so I don't hold a lot
of hope.  (Has anyone tried to do anything serious with the PCB program
in the ports collection?  Last time I built it, the resultant program 
killed my window manager, so I put it away 8) (It appears to be a port of
an old Atari ST program, and that was _bad_, IIRC)

>  John Utz	spaz@stein.u.washington.edu

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