Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 12:51:07 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Dan Langille <dan@langille.org> Cc: Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Plans for git (was: Please check the current beta git conversions) Message-ID: <CANCZdfrFYsv4=2b9MGuxKa2RVsMOCb1KLeHzp=N7F=AXLzgDmA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5c832482-b2bc-47e4-8762-8f5a886d5f11@www.fastmail.com> References: <CAPyFy2CTTecRJDnXNvF%2BM2%2BaLWJpA%2BEdG43ZeU3qwsCruecoFA@mail.gmail.com> <20200902045939.GA15897@eureka.lemis.com> <20200902060117.GG53210@home.opsec.eu> <20200902063136.GA47543@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <CAPyFy2ANWEiA2ndE6qr_kY=sPuY%2BeaAZg=apWo0OZPVC7pkwkg@mail.gmail.com> <20200902164706.GA49777@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <CANCZdfp8b78yNB8S2j1xHUKEz5iGNvdBGnw774_sXXtN9ucrSw@mail.gmail.com> <5c89b4d27281f5dfffc3252a90013b0ac6c763d7.camel@freebsd.org> <5c832482-b2bc-47e4-8762-8f5a886d5f11@www.fastmail.com>
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On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:46 PM Dan Langille <dan@langille.org> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Ian Lepore wrote: > > > Seriously, Warner? > > Yes, seriously. We are adults. Act accordingly. > I agree it was over the top. > Don't be confused. I also thought the message he was replying to was out > of line. > > > I applaud Steve's message as being the first one in this thread that > > has any real value at all. Unlike everyone else, he has clearly seen > > what the basic problem is (zero communications about this impending > > cutover to the people who need to work with it every day), and he > > summarized it in a completely practical way. > > We disagree. The message could have been worded without being negative. > It could have been worded in a way that was actionable. > > This assumption that everyone knows how to use git is mind-boggling. I > > think I installed it once, a few years ago. Then I uninstalled it > > because of how abysmally hard it was to try to learn even a few > > commands to do anything with it. > > No, it's assumed you will learn. I did. We all can. > > Please, we cooperate on this project. We don't attack, and yes, these were > attacks. > > > I guess Steve & I are a couple dinosaurs and the whole rest of the > > freebsd user and committer community is laughing at our ignorance and > > thinking "we don't need their contributions anyway, so let's just mock > > them and move on." > > I don't think so. I'm guessing I'm older and more set in my ways. > > There are much better ways to communicate that in recent messages. > I agree. I apologize for my outburst. Just frustrated. Warner
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