Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 18:08:06 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn <gljennjohn@gmail.com> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>, "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <imp@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, svn-src-head <svn-src-head@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r362422 - head/sbin/dump Message-ID: <20200620180806.6b50fbfc@ernst.home> In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfqxwsShpXiDhdZV3t_Za4AKJNpGdy_1Pf1szd1Y8TFwTQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <202006201110.05KBAZBU099451@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <3bab2cbf-c221-7d18-5257-2d3971975558@selasky.org> <CANCZdfqxwsShpXiDhdZV3t_Za4AKJNpGdy_1Pf1szd1Y8TFwTQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 07:57:29 -0600 Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 7:27 AM Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org> wrote: > > > On 2020-06-20 13:10, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > >> Author: imp > > >> Date: Sat Jun 20 04:19:17 2020 > > >> New Revision: 362422 > > >> URL:https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362422 > > >> > > >> Log: > > >> Increase the whimsy in this file by famring dump's work out to > > minions. Adjust > > >> variables accordingly. Thankfully, we are able to do this without > > additional > > >> banana expenditures. > > > This flys in the face of its intent and as a "commit" is more > > > racially biased than the code was! > > > > > > > Hi Warner, > > > > Maybe a stupid question, but is this the correct meaning or description > > of minion? > > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=minions > > > > minion; plural noun: minions > > > > a follower or underling of a powerful person, especially a servile > > or unimportant one. > > "he gets oppressed minions like me to fob them off" > > > > "Minion" is still a person, like "slave" is, so I must say I agree with > > Rodney about this, I don't see how this makes it any better? Can you > > explain? > > > > For me, Minions come from the Despicable Me movies and sequels. They work > for Gru, who pays them for their services. They love Bananas and often do > crazy things for a banana. They work for Gru willingly. They are free to > leave at any time. They are sad at the prospect of Gru having to lay them > off. > > Minions are also, as you point out, employed by the powerful to accomplish > things. Key word here is 'employed'. Servile doesn't mean 'involuntary > servitude' but rather 'an excessive willingness to please.' Underling means > only that them are below them on the org chart. There's no inherent > implication of an abusive relationship, per se, though that happens as in > any power relationship between people. > > And the extensive searching I did before the commit showed no complaints > about the movies, or that this term had some coded, racist history. Or any > other coded history that's problematic. Or any overt history for that > matter. > > SaltStack uses it as their name for agents that carry out tasks, for > example. > > So what am I missing? > Why not simply use sub-processes? After all, that's exactly what the "minion processes" are. -- Gary Jennejohn
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