Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 07:55:54 -0700 From: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> To: "Jack L." <xxjack12xx@gmail.com> Cc: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, Mark Millard via freebsd-ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, "@lbutlr" <kremels@kreme.com> Subject: Re: firefox Message-ID: <CAN6yY1v74vxrqgSxNvXtSR-bjt51Y7M07CEhwkU_KOxEAoAuAw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CALeGphxfww=NGgPXYa9OeDT0a0Y4R=j8%2B1fiGQBGm6r8vYv6Sw@mail.gmail.com> References: <0eeb4921-b8a5-f0f8-f568-80b240a73aec@hawaii-pacific.com> <CEE0E4CC-B366-4A2F-9247-61693B009010@kreme.com> <d64e19b4-2c03-10dd-c2e8-dbd5c88aa258@quip.cz> <CALeGphyQ_JMCSW%2B077soqnGsV2rDvTsMhH05MxYS=sBjLZdDBQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAN6yY1um0qJ2VM3MZCKjskze15dGaK69CJ5eaW62Xt9MRoO=zQ@mail.gmail.com> <CALeGphxfww=NGgPXYa9OeDT0a0Y4R=j8%2B1fiGQBGm6r8vYv6Sw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 11:20 PM Jack L. <xxjack12xx@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:51 AM Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 1:29 AM Jack L. <xxjack12xx@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 1:32 PM Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> > wrote: > >> > > >> > @lbutlr wrote on 2019/08/12 07:08: > >> > > On 11 Aug 2019, at 20:29, bruce <bruce@hawaii-pacific.com> wrote: > >> > >> I have tried firefox. It crashes regularly > >> > > > >> > > That doesn=E2=80=99t sound right. If Firefox is crashing a lot the= re is > something not quite right with your system or install. > >> > > >> > I am using Seamonkey on everyday basis. Sometimes my computer is > running > >> > 20+ days without reboot and Seamonkey running all the time with 5 > >> > windows and total count of 200+ openned tabs. No crashes at all. > >> > Firefox crashes instantly after start (even if I delete its profile) > >> > Palemoon, Qupzilla, Iridium crashes few times a day. > >> > LibreOffice, Gimp and other apps are running fine. Only browsers are > so > >> > unstable these days. And as you can read I am not alone with this ki= nd > >> > of experience so I don't think it's just my computer problem. > >> > > >> > Miroslav Lachman > >> > >> yup, they don't make browsers like they used to > > > > > > I'll probably regret opening this potential can of worms, but I find > these reports of instability in Firefox surprising. I have used Firfox as > my web browser on FreeBSD for many year, going back to at least Firefox v= 3 > and probably v2. I can't say I've never had it crash, but in the past yea= r > I can't recall a single crash on FreeBSD. It has been rock solid. So why = is > it failing or some people? (I'll note in passing that Firefox has been > somewhat less stable on Windows 7 where it seems to crash every couple of > weeks. > > > > Possibilities include hardware, especially graphics, web sites visited, > and Firefox configuration. Lots of tabs may be an issue as I try to keep = my > open tabs under 20. > > I can't imagine trying to deal with 200+, but it must eat a lot of > resources. That may be tied to the failures reported. > > My experience with firefox is it gets slower and slower and slower > until it's practically unusable until it's restarted (even having only > the gmail tab open for days) > Try looking at the memory pressure on your system. Firefox, especially when running heavy-duty pages like gmail. I noticed that rss (res on top) would grow until swapping started. It would continue until my swap partition was full followed by the expected... the system grinding to a halt. I could usually catch it before swap was full and restarting firefox would fix it for a while. If you want to monitor memory use, I suggest sysutils/gkrellm2. To looks at firefox use, "ps -uc | grep firefox" provides the rss for all firefox processes. rss is hte 6th column. You could write a quick script to sum the numbers, but I have just added them up manually. I increased RAM from 4G to 8, the max for the hardware, and that improved things a lot. (If you add memory, don't forget to enlarge swap.) Firefox still is huge, but the system now handles it much better. I checked the INITIAL memory use by Firefox recently and it was nearly 3.7G. And it grows from there. I saw similar issues with chrome, but I no longer use it. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683
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