Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 05:32:05 +0000 From: Bruce M Simpson <bms@spc.org> To: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/pf/net if_pflog.c if_pflog.h if_pfsync.c if_pfsync.h pf.c pf_ioctl.c pf_norm.c pf_osfp.c pf_table.c pfvar.h src/sys/contrib/pf/netinet in4_cksum.c Message-ID: <20040228053205.GA24378@saboteur.dek.spc.org> In-Reply-To: <20040227182325.GA81744@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <200402260234.i1Q2YDx1014240@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040226060126.GA70201@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20040226061846.GB15864@saboteur.dek.spc.org> <20040227182325.GA81744@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
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On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 10:23:25AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > Q: "Was this import discussed on arch@ or current@?" > A: No. We held private discussions. I make absolutely no apologies for this, because it's how real progress happens. Otherwise all effort is frittered away on bikesheds. Outside of FreeBSD (yet somewhat related) I have this problem. I am in discussions with a lawyer and freenetworks protagonists about legal strategies for the survival and propagation of freenetworks. If I were to publicly air EVERYTHING we've been doing and discussing, it would be disastrous. > If any of ipfw, ipfilter, or ip6fw are candidates for removal, then > it needs to be done before 5-STABLE is branched. Otherwise, we need > to find individuals to actively maintain each of these throughout the > lifetime of 5.X (a 3 to 5 year time span). We'll build that bridge when we come to it. We all have an interest in seeing these bolt-ons to the network stack propagate and survive. I am encouraged by luigi's feedback here. > > I also have Evil Plans(tm) for pf on FreeBSD. > > Care to summarize your plans? See earlier mail. BMS
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