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Date:      Fri, 5 Feb 2016 09:33:12 -0800
From:      Jason Helfman <jgh@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Remko Lodder <remko@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Eitan Adler <eadler@freebsd.org>, svn-doc-head@freebsd.org, svn-doc-all@freebsd.org, doc-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r48150 - head/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd
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On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:29 AM, Remko Lodder <remko@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
>> On 04 Feb 2016, at 17:00, Eitan Adler <eadler@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 4 February 2016 at 02:35, Remko Lodder <remko@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04 Feb 2016, at 09:01, Eitan Adler <eadler@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Author: eadler
>>>> Date: Thu Feb  4 08:01:53 2016
>>>> New Revision: 48150
>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/doc/48150
>>>>
>>>> Log:
>>>> Remove 15+ yr old reference to the world's busiest FTP server
>>>>
>>>> Modified:
>>>> head/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/article.xml
>>>>
>>>> Modified: head/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/article.xml
>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>>> --- head/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/article.xml  Thu Feb =
 4 02:19:12 2016        (r48149)
>>>> +++ head/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/article.xml  Thu Feb =
 4 08:01:53 2016        (r48150)
>>>> @@ -31,14 +31,7 @@
>>>>    <abstract>
>>>>      <para>In the open source world, the word <quote>Linux</quote> is =
almost
>>>>      synonymous with <quote>Operating System</quote>, but it is not th=
e only
>>>> -     open source &unix; operating system.  According
>>>> -     to the <link xlink:href=3D"http://www.leb.net/hzo/ioscount/data/=
r.9904.txt">Internet
>>>> -       Operating System Counter</link>, as of April 1999 31.3% of the
>>>> -     world's network connected machines run Linux.  14.6% run BSD &un=
ix;.
>>>> -     Some of the world's largest web operations, such as <link xlink:=
href=3D"http://www.yahoo.com/">Yahoo!</link>, run BSD.  The world's
>>>> -     busiest FTP server of 1999 (now defunct), <link xlink:href=3D"ft=
p://ftp.cdrom.com/">ftp.cdrom.com</link>, used BSD to
>>>> -     transfer 1.4 TB of data a day.    Clearly this is not a niche
>>>> -     market: BSD is a well-kept secret.</para>
>>>> +     open source &unix; operating system.</para>
>>>>
>>>>      <para>So what is the secret?  Why is BSD not better known?  This =
white
>>>>      paper addresses these and other questions.</para>
>>>
>>> Why remove this? It explains why BSD is used and more specifically it d=
oes not jump from =E2=80=98not the only unix operating system=E2=80=99 to =
=E2=80=98so what is the secret, why is bsd not better known=E2=80=99.
>>
>> A 15+ yr old reference that talks about transferring 1.4 TB of data a
>> day is hardly impressive. It might be better to reference Netflix or
>> Whatapp now.
>
> It does not go about =E2=80=98impressive=E2=80=99 or not but for historic=
al reasons. We can _add_ netflix or whatsapp, but we just should not remove=
 this because you find it outdated.
>

While I understand the reasoning behind this, and appreciate the
mentioning of what could be added, removing an old and potentially
relevant entry without adding new content is perceived as an issue.
Additionally, have you considered reaching out to our Yahoo!
committers, or Yahoo!, to see if they would have any more current
statistics so we may update the site (assuming it isn't a small
amount, and is comparable to other service providers)? As I recall,
this was an opening to listing other service providers that use BSD,
and thought it was a nice transition.

Regards,
Jason


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