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Date:      Mon, 17 May 1999 22:43:02 -0400
From:      Laurence Berland <stuyman@confusion.net>
To:        Adam Szilveszter <sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>
Cc:        juksi@iname.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Newbie tip
Message-ID:  <3740D3B6.4D8323AD@confusion.net>
References:  <Pine.LNX.3.96.990517184301.1790A-100000@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>

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Perhaps not an elegant way to do things, but...
If you set a bios powerup password, then tell everyone that, they can
just hit ctrl-alt-delete, which will do a shutdown -r even if you're not
root, then have them turn it off when the bios password prompt comes up.

Adam Szilveszter wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> On Mon, 17 May 1999, Jukka Simila wrote:
> 
> >
> > On 17-May-99 Adam Szilveszter wrote:
> >
> [...]
> > You don't even have to move the mouse, take two identical mouses and boot with
> > another mouse installed, then switch it to the another, you have to reboot
> > before win95 detects the new mouse.
> :-)))))) Especially PS/2 mice behave that way...
> >
> > But:
> > If you have a computer that can't be power-on for 24h / day, say, a computer
> > used mainly for text-editing (that old 486 :), wouldn't it be nicer to give
> > users a possibility to shut it down with their own password, rather than
> > delivering root's password to everyone, or recommending microsoft-style
> > shutdown "just switch the power off, it's all right then" :)
> 
> Hmmmm. That's a different matter then. My computer is turned off every day
> as well because my roommate cannot stand if it is running at night. But
> I'm there so I always can turn it off. I have not thought the matter over,
> obviously. from this perspective, your solution very much makes sense.
> What I said is that one should be very careful in configuring packages to
> be sudo but that said there are circumstances when it is necessary. The M$
> style shutdown idea is coooool, although some actually practice it in our
> dorm as well and don't even know that it is bad...
> 
> >
> > "You cannot shut down the computer yourself, but just ask me and I will be
> > there in a minute. Oh, I forgot, I won't be home until tomorrow.. Would you
> > like to become a sysadmin?" :)
> :-)))))) That's the result when I speak w/o thinking... yep. Obviously a
> bug or config error inside my head. Has happened before as well. A fix,
> anyone?:-)))))
> 
> That aside, I was only considering single-user environments and LANs where
> normal users cannot access the console anyway. That's because I was
> drawing on my prevoius experience here at the dorm where only these
> environments seem to occur:-) At home my family still uses Winsssssuxxx so
> it is not a problem. Maybe I will bring in some change this summer...but
> my machine was more urgent because it actually has Net access so I can
> utilize FreeBSD's full potential.
> 
> Regards:
>           Szilveszter
> 
>           Szeged University
>           Hungary
> 
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-- 
Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate
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Windows 98: n.
        useless extension to a minor patch release for 
        32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 
        16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system 
        originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, 
        written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for
        1 bit of competition.
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