Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:16:10 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> To: Willem Jan Withagen <wjw@digiware.nl> Cc: vadim_nuclight@mail.ru, freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: FreeBSD 6.4 and 8.0 EoLs coming soon Message-ID: <20100921131610.GA58719@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <4C98AC42.1040104@digiware.nl> References: <201009011653.o81Grkm4056064@fire.js.berklix.net> <201009011902.06538.hselasky@c2i.net> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1009051144190.47367@fledge.watson.org> <slrni8c5gj.1eap.vadim_nuclight@kernblitz.nuclight.avtf.net> <4C8627A6.1090308@icyb.net.ua> <opviol28ky17d6mn@nuclight> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1009191922570.86826@fledge.watson.org> <slrni9h4nt.27na.vadim_nuclight@kernblitz.nuclight.avtf.net> <4C989989.4050408@icyb.net.ua> <4C98AC42.1040104@digiware.nl>
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On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 02:59:46PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
> On 2010-09-21 13:39, {some mysterious person :-)} wrote:
> >>The Project is ultimately about the users, right? There are early signs that
> >>some old FreeBSD users get tired from those changes, those removals, lesser
> >>POLA adherence, marketing-not-technical-stuff for time-not-feature-based
> >>releases, not so stable -STABLE as it used to be, and so on, migrating to
> >>other systems. And older users are more valuable to project than newer ones.
> >>May be it's time to revert to some of thet Old Good Things, if decade-long
> >>project is mostly ended, while those signs are still early and not a strong
> >>tendency?.. Given this thread, I've mentioned earlier about 12 messages in
> >>announce@ from 2002 with such public calls for volunteers - there are several
> >>years already without these.
Andriy wasn't the one who wrote this. In fact, I'm not sure who the
quote actually came from because I never received the Email it came
from, but I'm under the impression it's from Vadim. My mail spool:
$ grep "Old Good Things" Mail/freebsd/freebsd-stable
> May be it's time to revert to some of thet Old Good Things, if decade-long
>> May be it's time to revert to some of thet Old Good Things, if decade-long
>>> May be it's time to revert to some of thet Old Good Things, if decade-long
>> May be it's time to revert to some of thet Old Good Things, if decade-long
The first mention of it was in an Email from Andriy, sent to Vadim, with
Andriy quoting someone words (the first paragraph shown above).
Strangely I can't find the mail on the official FreeBSD pipermail lists
either.
I'm staying out of the main discussion, but I'm just wanting to point
out that Andriy did not write the above quote.
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