Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 15:07:41 -0700 From: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> To: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Cc: Mike Jeays <mj001@rogers.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter. Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030104145840.02925620@localhost> In-Reply-To: <rcptrcppvl.trc@localhost.localdomain> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030104131212.03837e10@localhost> <3E120659.3D60EB30@mindspring.com> <200212312041.gBVKfr183480@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> <3E120659.3D60EB30@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104112015.026a5530@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104131212.03837e10@localhost>
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At 02:27 PM 1/4/2003, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: >But anyone who cares knows where the pill is located and may eat the >rest of the apple. As true as your agenda crack "Crack?" >is, we should not deny >that there is a gift being granted; just not as much as we would like or >as much as they lead people to believe. The Trojan Horse looked like a gift too. >> Yes, it has. It has made most such software dependent upon >> a tool that is GPLed, which is a very bad thing. > >The publishing of gcc (or gcc itself) has not done that. It's people's >(I won't say "free") choice to make themselves so dependent. In other words, "Slavery is freedom?" This sounds a bit like RMS's rhetoric. ;-) >I don't >blame either Bill Gates or RMS for publishing their proprietary >software; their self-interests should be respected. I just blame them >for their unsavory behavior dealing with people and companies, >especially for misleading people, in RMS's case. And most of the blame >goes to their "customers". When someone engages in a deceptive trade practice, one should not blame the consumers but rather the perpetrator. If you talk to people who use Linux and GPLed software, you'll find that 99% of them have no idea whatsoever about the agenda they're promoting. (The same is true of consumers who don't know that they're being forced to buy Microsoft products. When I do support, and ask users, "What operating system are you running?" It's amazing how often they draw a complete blank.) In both cases, the consumers are acting more like automata than rational beings. They're lambs to the slaughter. >> Not true at all. People will put up with mediocrity if it's >> available at no cost. To the point where it drives out much >> better commercial products. > >Point made, but I don't think it's fair to blame the pawn shop for the >lack of a Tiffinis in your town. Items at pawn shops aren't available at no cost. In fact, they're usually not even a good bargain. > The blame belongs to the consumers. Again, I'm afraid I have to disagree here. Mass behavior is often only rational on a "micro" level and not a "macro" one. At the risk of triggering Godwin's Law, I don't blame the majority of Germans for WWII or the atrocities thereof. I blame Hitler and his cronies. The Germans were taken for a ride... into a devastating, brutal war that severely hurt them. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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