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Date:      Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:37:42 -0700
From:      Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org>
To:        Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@icir.org>
Cc:        cvs-all@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/em if_em.c
Message-ID:  <41890956.2030705@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20041103082806.C49241@xorpc.icir.org>
References:  <200411031411.iA3EBIqL012134@repoman.freebsd.org> <418905E5.1050605@freebsd.org> <20041103082806.C49241@xorpc.icir.org>

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Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 09:23:01AM -0700, Scott Long wrote:
> ...
> 
>>I think that in general we can start eyeing a lot of similar verbosity
>>in all of our drivers, both at boot and at runtime.  For example most
>>nic drivers print out their MAC and all of their possible negotiation
>>rates on attach.  This same info can be obtained from ifconfig.  Why
>>clutter the boot with it?
> 
> 
> because sometimes you might need to enable some MAC-based filter
> before you have a chance to access the box. e.g. to set dhcp/bootp
> anbd the like.
> 
> A bit of verbosity is useful, you can always switch to splash screens
> if you don't like them.
> 
> I think the link-up/link-down thing is different because it
> happens not just at boot but also whenever the link status
> changes (e.g. when a spanning tree on a switch detects a
> reconfiguration), and this is annoying on the console.
> 
> cheers
> luigi
> 

I'm not saying that these things should be removed, just places under
bootverbose.  Situations like what you are saying are rare and/or
one-time occurances.  And if you look at drivers like if_ath(no offense 
meant towards Sam):

ath0: <Atheros 5212> mem 0xf4010000-0xf401ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on 
cardbus1
ath0: mac 5.6 phy 4.1 5ghz radio 1.7 2ghz radio 2.3
ath0: Ethernet address: 00:0c:41:15:5f:94
ath0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
ath0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps
ath0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 
24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
ath0: turbo rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps

The last 4 lines could easily go under bootverbose.  I'd even wager that
the second line can be hidden also; it provides little useful
information for a normal boot.

Scott



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