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Date:      Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:13:26 -0400
From:      Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-stable-local@be-well.ilk.org>
To:        Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net>
Cc:        "stable\@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: when the sshd hits the fan
Message-ID:  <447fnhkkyx.fsf@lowell-desk.lan>
In-Reply-To: <50FC7B1F-1009-449C-9215-E3EBFD0CA7F5@slsware.net> (Glenn English's message of "Wed, 23 Sep 2015 12:34:39 -0600")
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Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> writes:

> On Sep 23, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Michael Loftis <mloftis@wgops.com> wrote:
>
>> That's the most common thing, RC scripts hanging waiting on external
>> resources while you're locked out simply because sshd starts
>> ridiculously late. Very common problem.
>
> If properly configed, shouldn't things come up in order, with their
> dependencies already running? Or is specifying boot order not possible
> on FBSD?

Yes; that's done with rcorder(8). The startup order isn't completely
defined, just the dependencies that require being started before (or,
occasionally, after) some other service.

> I can certainly understand the possible need for SSH, just for incase,
> but I'd think things could be set to do stuff in the proper
> order. Except for cyclic dependencies, of course -- a significant bug
> for the maintainers.

The discussion here is whether the "proper order" should be changed from
the current default. As for cycles in the graph, rcorder already detects
that.



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